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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: AllanR on Wednesday 07 June 17 16:36 BST (UK)
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Hi,
According to the UK 1881 census JRDF & Hannah (nee TALL) had 4 children: Ellen I D (b abt 1868, no registration found); William R M (b abt 1865, no registration found); Hannah (b 1876) & John Rouse Upton (b 05 Jun 1882).
The family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.
JRDF, a carpenter in 1881, died in Victoria in 1936, whilst Hannah (nee TALL) had predeceased him in 1914, also in Victoria.
I'm looking, without success, for what happened to the children and any other details regarding JRDF & Hannah.
Many thanks in advance,
AllanR
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John Rouse Deacon Foot's marriage cert is on line - married April 4 1875 at St. Andrew, Plymouth - and his father is James, occupation Carpenter. Is this John's brother?
Western Times, 20 Sep 1879
"LOCAL FREEMASONRY - The election of 16 boys out of a list of seventy seven candidates for the Royal masonic Institution for boys will take place at Freemason's Tavern, London, on Monday, the 13th of Oct. Four of the candidates are from the Masonic province of Devonshire:- ...; William Robert Deacon Foot, of Plymouth, son of the late Brother James Foot, carpenter and builder, who was initiated in the Lodge of Harmony, No. 156, Plymouth, on the 20th Dec 1859."
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John's address on the marriage cert is "9 New Street"
FindMyPast Burials (transcription)
James Foot, age 52, address 9 New Street, parish of St Andrew, Plymouth, buried 30 May 1878 at Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth,
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Found the following for John Rouse Upton Foot - death record on FindMyPast
Age 67
Sex Male
Birth year 1883
Death year 1950
Father's name Deacon John Rouse
Mother's name Hannah Tall
Death place Ewick
State Victoria
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Are William R.M and Ellen I.D on the 1881 Census Mary A. Foot's children - John's siblings?
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Looking at the original image of the 1881 Census does it read "Esther" rather than "Ellen" - that's what I'm reading.
FindMyPast - The birth of an Esther Jane Foot was registered Dec Qtr 1867, Plymouth, 5b 295
P.S.
Checking the GRO the mother's maiden name is Deacon
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The 1871 Census reference is RG10 2123 114 18
John, Esther and William with James and Mary Ann (parents) and 3 other siblings - at 8 New Street, Plymouth(No.9 is uninhabited)
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The birth of William Robert Deacon Foot was registered July Qtr 1870, Plymouth, 05b 291 - mother's maiden name Deacon
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Hi,
Death notice for Hannah Foot who died on 18th February 1914 at her home, 32 Churchill Grove, Glenferrie, Melbourne. The notice mentions a Hannah and John. R. Foot of Hawkes Bay, New Zealand.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7261693?searchTerm=
Gerry
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Death notice for John R D Foot died 21 September 1936 at Stroud Street Balwyn. Husband of the late Hannah and Father of Hannah (Mrs Stratton) and Jack New Zealand.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205908076?
Johngirl
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Hi,
According to the UK 1881 census JRDF & Hannah (nee TALL) had 4 children: Ellen I D (b abt 1868, no registration found); William R M (b abt 1865, no registration found); Hannah (b 1876) & John Rouse Upton (b 05 Jun 1882).
The family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.
JRDF, a carpenter in 1881, died in Victoria in 1936, whilst Hannah (nee TALL) had predeceased him in 1914, also in Victoria.
I'm looking, without success, for what happened to the children and any other details regarding JRDF & Hannah.
Many thanks in advance,
AllanR
John and Hannah had two children in England.
According to the 1871 John 20 years was living at 8 New Street, Plymouth with his parents James and Mary Ann and younger siblings James 18, Emma 13, Mary Ann 3, Esther 3 and William 10 months. On the subscription based website I accessed, their surname as has been mistranscribed as TOOT. Also mistranscribed on familysearch.org
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Dec 1867
FOOT Esther Jane Plymouth 5b/295
FOOT Mary Ann Plymouth 5b/295
Births Jun 1870
FOOT William Robert D Plymouth 5b/291
Marriages Jun 1875
FOOT John Rouse D Plymouth 5b/412
TALL Hannah Plymouth 5b/412
Births Jun 1876
FOOT Hannah Plymouth 5b/247
1881 Census
Living at 9 New Street, Plymouth
FOOT John R D Head Mar 31 years Master Carpenter [empl 2 men] Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT Hannah Wife Mar 30 years Wife Born Devonshire Plymouth St Mary
FOOT Mary Mother Widow 53 years No occupation Born Cornwall, Landulp
FOOT Esther J D Dau 13 years Scholar Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT William R D Son 10 years Scholar Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT Hannah Niece 5 years Scholar Born Devonshire Plymouth
There are errors with the relationships to Head.
Cando
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he family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.
According to the Unassisted Immigration Index at Public Record Office of Victoria only Hannah FOOT 35 years, Hannah 9 years and John 3 years arrived on the ORIENT in 1886.
You can search yourself
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=23
Cando
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Australian Electoral Roll
1912
FOOT Hannah 32 Churchill Grove Hawthorn Nurse
FOOT Hannah 32 Churchill Grove Hawthorn HD
FOOT John Rowse Decan [sic] 32 Church Grove, Hawthorn Joiner
1926
FOOT Hannah 126 Edgevale Road Kew HD
FOOT John Rouse Deacon 126 Edgevale Road Kew Joiner
1936
FOOT John Rouse Deacon Evelyn Road, Balwyn Carpenter
Victorian BDM's are free to search
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
You can also purchase online and immediately download images of certificates from the same url.
Information on Victorian certificates - death certs name issue both living and deceased and their ages.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
Death registration from my resource
FOOT John Rouse Deakin
Father James FOOT Mother Unknown DEAKIN
At Balwyn 86 years 1936 Reg#8410
John did not have a Will.
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
John Rouse Deacon FOOT, Hannah FOOT and John Rouse Upton FOOT are interred at the same location at Box Hill Cemetery
http://boxhillcemetery.org/intramaps80/
Cando
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Australian Electoral Roll
1942, 1949
FOOT John Rouse U, 6 Hopetoun Street, Elsternwick Sales
From my resource -
Death
FOOT John Rouse Upton
Father Deacon John Rouse Mother Hannah TALL
At Elsternwick 67 years 1950 Reg#13148
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23017797
The Argus 23 Nov 1950
FOOT -On November 21 at 6 Hopetoun street Elsternwick John loved father of Jeff (N.Z) and loving brother of Annie (Mrs H Statton)
(No flowers by request )
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206419882
The Age 23 Nov 1950
The Funeral of the late John FOOT will leave Le Pine's Funeral Parlor, 841 Burke-road, Camberwell. tomorrow, after a service, commencing at 10.45 a.m., for the Box Hill Cemetery.
Cando
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Also interred at the same location at Box Hill Cemetery
FOOT Jack Erskine France
Father John Rouse Mother Florence FRANCE
At Box Hill 60 years 1971 Reg#2813
and birth in NZ
1910/485
FOOT Jack Erskine France
Father John Rouse Upton Mother Florence Jane
Parents' marriage in NZ with mistranscribed surname for the groom.
1908/4093
FOOL John Rouse Upton
FRANCE Florence Jane
Cando
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Hi,
A huge thank you to all who have provided so much information - I will have to re-arrange my tree in the light of the GRO info regarding the elder children in the 1881 census. Esther & William must be the younger sister and brother of John RD Foot.
Thanks again,
AllanR
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Of course they are!!
According to the 1871 [census]John 20 years was living at 8 New Street, Plymouth with his parents James and Mary Ann and younger siblings James 18, Emma 13, Mary Ann 3, Esther 3 and William 10 months. On the subscription based website I accessed, their surname as has been mistranscribed as TOOT. Also mistranscribed on familysearch.org
Cando
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Marriage
STATTON Harry Davy
FOOT Hannah
1927 Reg#8417
Deaths
STATTON Hannah
Father John Rous FOOT Mother Hannah TALL
At Canterbury 89 years 1965 Reg#19390
Cremation record at Springvale Botanical Cemetery
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/302189
STATTON Harry Davy
Father Samuel Mother Ella WILLIAMSON
At Balwyn 69 years 1963 Reg#10423
Cremation record at Springvale Botanical Cemetery
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/280100
Cando
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Hi Fifer,
Is there any evidence that John Rouse Upton FOOT (son of John R D FOOT) married in Australia? JRUF was born on 5th June 1882.
Thanks again,
AllanR
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The marriage of JRDF's parents, James Foot and Mary Ann Deacon is on line.
They married St. Andrew's, Plymouth, 4 Nov 1849 -
James, age 24, bachelor, 10 King St, carpenter, father James Foot, carpenter.
Mary Ann, 23, spinster, 33 Old Town St, father John Deacon, farmer.
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Exeter & Plymouth Gazette Daily Telegrams, 4 May 1878
"FREEMASONRY - Province of Devon - the election of an annuitant on the Fortescue Annuity Fund, in the place of Brother Opie, deceased, took place yesterday at the Secretary's (Br. Fred Pollard's) offices, Gundy Street, Exeter, when Brother James Foot carpenter, Plymouth, now prevented by illness from earning anything, and in the opinion of his medical attendant, will never again be able to provide for himself and family, was elected by a very large majority - receives the sum of £30 per annum for life."
As previously posted, James was buried 30 May 1878 - less than 4 weeks after being elected.
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1851 Census - ref HO107 1879 367 53
James Foot, Head, 25, Carpenter, born Horrabridge, Devon
Mary Ann Foot, Wife, 23, Born Landulph, Cornwall
John Rouse Deacon Foot, age 1, born Plymouth
Address - 29 William Street, St. Andrew
1841 Census - HO107 240 5 4
James Foot, 35 Carpenter
Sarah Foot, 30,
James Foot, 15 Carpenter
Mary 13, Sarah 11, John 9, Israel 7, Selina 5, Emma 3 and Elizabeth 3 mths
Address - Horrabridge, Buckland Monachorum; all born Devon
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Hi AlanR,
See Cando's response 14, as follows.
Parents' marriage in NZ with mistranscribed surname for the groom.
1908/4093
FOOL John Rouse Upton
FRANCE Florence Jane
Gerry