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Title: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: AllanR on Wednesday 07 June 17 16:36 BST (UK)
Hi,
According to the UK 1881 census JRDF & Hannah (nee TALL) had 4 children: Ellen I D (b abt 1868, no registration found); William R M (b abt 1865, no registration found); Hannah (b 1876) & John Rouse Upton (b 05 Jun 1882).

The family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.

JRDF, a carpenter in 1881, died in Victoria in 1936, whilst Hannah (nee TALL) had predeceased him in 1914, also in Victoria.

I'm looking, without success, for what happened to the children and any other details regarding JRDF & Hannah.

Many thanks in advance,

AllanR
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:08 BST (UK)
John Rouse Deacon Foot's marriage cert is on line - married April 4 1875 at St. Andrew, Plymouth - and his father is James, occupation Carpenter. Is this John's brother?

Western Times, 20 Sep 1879
"LOCAL FREEMASONRY - The election of 16 boys out of a list of seventy seven candidates for the Royal masonic Institution for boys will take place at Freemason's Tavern, London, on Monday, the 13th of Oct. Four of the candidates are from the Masonic province of Devonshire:- ...; William Robert Deacon Foot, of Plymouth, son of the late Brother James Foot, carpenter and builder, who was initiated in the Lodge of Harmony, No. 156, Plymouth, on the 20th Dec 1859."

Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:18 BST (UK)
John's address on the marriage cert is "9 New Street"

FindMyPast Burials (transcription)

James Foot, age 52, address 9 New Street, parish of St Andrew, Plymouth, buried 30 May 1878 at Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth,
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: Fifer66 on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:22 BST (UK)
Found the following for John Rouse Upton Foot - death record on FindMyPast

Age   67
Sex   Male
Birth year   1883
Death year   1950
Father's name   Deacon John Rouse
Mother's name   Hannah Tall
Death place   Ewick
State   Victoria
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:35 BST (UK)
Are William R.M and Ellen I.D on the 1881 Census Mary A. Foot's children - John's siblings?
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:41 BST (UK)
Looking at the original image of the 1881 Census does it read "Esther" rather than "Ellen" - that's what I'm reading.

FindMyPast - The birth of an Esther Jane Foot was registered Dec Qtr 1867, Plymouth, 5b 295

P.S.
Checking the GRO the mother's maiden name is Deacon
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:56 BST (UK)
The 1871 Census reference is RG10 2123 114  18

John, Esther and William with James and Mary Ann (parents) and 3 other siblings - at 8 New Street, Plymouth(No.9 is uninhabited)
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 June 17 17:59 BST (UK)
The birth of William Robert Deacon Foot was registered July Qtr 1870, Plymouth, 05b 291 - mother's maiden name Deacon
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 07 June 17 22:56 BST (UK)

Hi,

Death notice for Hannah Foot who died on 18th February 1914 at her home, 32 Churchill Grove, Glenferrie, Melbourne. The notice mentions a Hannah and John. R. Foot of Hawkes Bay, New Zealand.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7261693?searchTerm=

Gerry 
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: johngirl on Thursday 08 June 17 04:04 BST (UK)
Death notice for John R D Foot died 21 September 1936 at Stroud Street Balwyn. Husband of the late Hannah and Father of Hannah (Mrs Stratton) and Jack New Zealand.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205908076?

 Johngirl
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 07:55 BST (UK)
Hi,
According to the UK 1881 census JRDF & Hannah (nee TALL) had 4 children: Ellen I D (b abt 1868, no registration found); William R M (b abt 1865, no registration found); Hannah (b 1876) & John Rouse Upton (b 05 Jun 1882).

The family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.

JRDF, a carpenter in 1881, died in Victoria in 1936, whilst Hannah (nee TALL) had predeceased him in 1914, also in Victoria.

I'm looking, without success, for what happened to the children and any other details regarding JRDF & Hannah.

Many thanks in advance,

AllanR

John and Hannah had two children in England.

According to the 1871 John 20 years was living at 8 New Street, Plymouth with his parents James and Mary Ann and younger siblings James 18, Emma 13, Mary Ann 3, Esther 3 and William 10 months.  On the subscription based website I accessed, their surname as has been mistranscribed as TOOT.   Also mistranscribed on familysearch.org

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Dec 1867   
FOOT Esther Jane  Plymouth   5b/295
FOOT Mary Ann     Plymouth 5b/295

Births Jun 1870   
FOOT William Robert D        Plymouth    5b/291

Marriages Jun 1875   
FOOT    John Rouse D     Plymouth    5b/412    
TALL Hannah         Plymouth    5b/412

Births Jun 1876 
FOOT    Hannah    Plymouth    5b/247

1881 Census
Living at 9 New Street, Plymouth
FOOT John R D  Head  Mar  31 years  Master Carpenter [empl 2 men]  Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT Hannah  Wife  Mar  30 years   Wife  Born Devonshire  Plymouth St Mary
FOOT Mary   Mother Widow  53 years    No occupation   Born Cornwall, Landulp
FOOT Esther J D  Dau  13 years   Scholar  Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT William R D Son  10 years  Scholar  Born Devonshire Plymouth
FOOT Hannah  Niece 5 years  Scholar  Born Devonshire Plymouth

There are errors with the relationships to Head.

Cando

Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 08:18 BST (UK)
Quote
he family arrived in Victoria, Australia aboard the 'Orient' in 1886.

According to the Unassisted Immigration Index at Public Record Office of Victoria only Hannah FOOT 35 years, Hannah 9 years and John 3 years arrived on the ORIENT in 1886.
You can search yourself
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=23

Cando
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 08:44 BST (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1912
FOOT Hannah 32 Churchill Grove Hawthorn  Nurse
FOOT Hannah 32 Churchill Grove Hawthorn HD
FOOT John Rowse Decan [sic]  32 Church Grove, Hawthorn     Joiner

1926
FOOT Hannah 126 Edgevale Road  Kew  HD
FOOT John Rouse Deacon  126 Edgevale Road Kew  Joiner

1936
FOOT John Rouse Deacon   Evelyn Road, Balwyn  Carpenter

Victorian BDM's are free to search
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

You can also purchase online and immediately download images of certificates from the same url.
Information on Victorian certificates -  death certs name issue both living and deceased and their ages.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Death registration from my resource

FOOT John Rouse Deakin
Father James FOOT  Mother Unknown DEAKIN
At Balwyn  86 years  1936 Reg#8410

John did not have a Will.
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

John Rouse Deacon FOOT, Hannah FOOT and John Rouse Upton FOOT are interred at the same location at Box Hill Cemetery
http://boxhillcemetery.org/intramaps80/

Cando


Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 08:59 BST (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1942, 1949
FOOT John Rouse U, 6 Hopetoun Street, Elsternwick   Sales

From my resource -
Death
FOOT John Rouse Upton
Father Deacon John Rouse  Mother Hannah TALL
At Elsternwick  67 years  1950  Reg#13148

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23017797
The Argus  23 Nov 1950
FOOT -On November 21 at 6 Hopetoun street Elsternwick John loved father of Jeff (N.Z) and loving brother of Annie (Mrs H Statton)
(No flowers by request )

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206419882
The Age 23 Nov 1950
The Funeral of the late John FOOT will leave Le Pine's Funeral Parlor, 841 Burke-road, Camberwell. tomorrow, after a service, commencing at 10.45 a.m., for the Box Hill Cemetery.
 

Cando



Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 09:19 BST (UK)
Also interred at the same location at Box Hill Cemetery

FOOT Jack Erskine France
Father John Rouse   Mother Florence  FRANCE
At Box Hill  60 years  1971  Reg#2813

and birth in NZ
1910/485   
FOOT    Jack Erskine France    
Father John Rouse Upton    Mother Florence Jane   

Parents' marriage in NZ with mistranscribed surname for the groom.

1908/4093   
FOOL John Rouse Upton
FRANCE Florence Jane    

Cando
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: AllanR on Thursday 08 June 17 11:43 BST (UK)
Hi,

A huge thank you to all who have provided so much information - I will have to re-arrange my tree in the light of the GRO info regarding the elder children in the 1881 census.  Esther & William must be the younger sister and brother of John RD Foot.

Thanks again,

AllanR
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 11:49 BST (UK)
Of course they are!!

Quote
According to the 1871 [census]John 20 years was living at 8 New Street, Plymouth with his parents James and Mary Ann and younger siblings James 18, Emma 13, Mary Ann 3, Esther 3 and William 10 months. On the subscription based website I accessed, their surname as has been mistranscribed as TOOT.   Also mistranscribed on familysearch.org

Cando
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 June 17 12:08 BST (UK)
Marriage
STATTON Harry Davy
FOOT Hannah
1927  Reg#8417


Deaths
STATTON Hannah
Father John Rous FOOT  Mother Hannah TALL
At Canterbury  89 years  1965  Reg#19390

Cremation record at Springvale Botanical Cemetery
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/302189

STATTON Harry Davy
Father Samuel   Mother Ella  WILLIAMSON
At Balwyn  69 years  1963  Reg#10423

Cremation record at Springvale Botanical Cemetery
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/280100

Cando






Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: AllanR on Thursday 08 June 17 16:47 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

Is there any evidence that John Rouse Upton FOOT (son of John R D FOOT) married in Australia? JRUF was born on 5th June 1882.


Thanks again,


AllanR
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 08 June 17 17:14 BST (UK)
The marriage of JRDF's parents, James Foot and Mary Ann Deacon is on line.

They married St. Andrew's, Plymouth, 4 Nov 1849 -
James, age 24, bachelor, 10 King St, carpenter, father James Foot, carpenter.
Mary Ann, 23, spinster, 33 Old Town St, father John Deacon, farmer. 
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 08 June 17 17:49 BST (UK)
Exeter & Plymouth Gazette Daily Telegrams, 4 May 1878
"FREEMASONRY - Province of Devon - the election of an annuitant on the Fortescue Annuity Fund, in the place of Brother Opie, deceased, took place yesterday at the Secretary's (Br. Fred Pollard's) offices, Gundy Street, Exeter, when Brother James Foot carpenter, Plymouth, now prevented by illness from earning anything, and in the opinion of his medical attendant, will never again be able to provide for himself and family, was elected by a very large majority - receives the sum of £30 per annum for life."

As previously posted, James was buried 30 May 1878 - less than 4 weeks after being elected.
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 08 June 17 18:42 BST (UK)
1851 Census - ref HO107  1879  367  53
James Foot, Head, 25, Carpenter, born Horrabridge, Devon
Mary Ann Foot, Wife, 23, Born Landulph, Cornwall
John Rouse Deacon Foot, age 1, born Plymouth
Address - 29 William Street, St. Andrew

1841 Census - HO107 240  5  4
James Foot, 35 Carpenter
Sarah Foot, 30,
James Foot, 15 Carpenter
Mary 13, Sarah 11, John 9, Israel 7, Selina 5, Emma 3 and Elizabeth 3 mths
Address - Horrabridge, Buckland Monachorum; all born Devon
Title: Re: John Rouse Deacon FOOT
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 08 June 17 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi AlanR,

See Cando's response 14, as follows.

Parents' marriage in NZ with mistranscribed surname for the groom.

1908/4093   
FOOL John Rouse Upton
FRANCE Florence Jane   


Gerry