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Hi
I hope someone can help me here. My ancestor George Baldock and was christened in Westwell on 4 May 1712. He was the third child (and second son) of Thomas Baldock and Anne Brett who were married in Westwell on 29 November 1699.
My problem is that I cannot find a christening for Thomas. I have a research note saying he was born in Charing in 1676 and was the son of Anthony Baldock but no other details. I also have a note saying Thomas was born in 1656 (again the son of Anthony). However I can find no record of Thomas online or info on where these dates came from.
Anthony may have been the son of Nicholas and Faith Baldock who died in 1622 and 1630 respectively (I have Faith's will). If so this would indicate he was born before 1622 which would suggest Thomas was born in the 1650s not 1670s.
I need to do some more checks and look and those Wills again but if anyone can confirm when Thomas was born it would be a big help.
Many thanks
Matt
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Hi Matt,
According to a transcription there is a birth record in the Charing Parish Register that reads,
1656 May 2 Thomas s/o Anthony BALDOCKE - D.o.B.
Thomas had a sister Liddia born 2 May 1657 at Charing.
Hope this helps more than my recent postings.
Tony ???
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Hi Matt,
According to a transcription there is a birth record in the Charing Parish Register that reads,
1656 May 2 Thomas s/o Anthony BALDOCKE - D.o.B.
Thomas had a sister Liddia born 2 May 1657 at Charing.
Hope this helps more than my recent postings.
Tony ???
Hi Tony
Yes that definitely helps a lot. The next thing for me to establish is when Anthony was born and who/when he married. I believe he was the son of Nicholas and Faith Baldock.
Thanks again for this and all your other posts which have all been very helpful.
Best Wishes
Matt
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Anthony Baldock appears to have died in 1679.
Matt
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Mornin' Matt,
A marriage by Licence at Little Chart, just down the hill from Westwell and Charing,
1639 Feb 26 Anthony Baldocke (36, a Husbandman) and Martha Peck (37) both said to be of the Parish.
Does this fit with your other information?
Tony
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Mornin' Matt,
A marriage by Licence at Little Chart, just down the hill from Westwell and Charing,
1639 Feb 26 Anthony Baldocke (36, a Husbandman) and Martha Peck (37) both said to be of the Parish.
Does this fit with your other information?
Tony
Hi Tony
I have a note of this marriage in my records but didn't have it linked to anyone. Do you think Martha could be Thomas's mother?
Interestingly this does fit with some other Baldocks I am looking at. There is an Anthony Baldock christened in Charing on 25 Feb 1604/05. He was the son of Nicholas Baldock and Agnes Allen who I believe were also married by licence.
I'll update you more soon.
Matt
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I've been trying to research my Baldock line in Westwell & Eastwell for sometime and hit a brickwall. The furthest I have is David Baldock born 1817 although has been listed 1817-1821.
Trying to confirm David's father I believe his brother William born 1826, their mother as far as I can tell didn't marry as I cannot find a father for either listed or any marriage to any Deborah's for that matter in that part of Kent fitting the time frame. So assuming now Deborah carried the Baldock name on, although need to make sure that is correct. So wondered if our branches might cross does your research have any later connections in Folkestone after 1830s ? David moved there and was later innkeeper in the town before he died in 1863.
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I've been trying to research my Baldock line in Westwell & Eastwell for sometime and hit a brickwall. The furthest I have is David Baldock born 1817 although has been listed 1817-1821.
Trying to confirm David's father I believe his brother William born 1826, their mother as far as I can tell didn't marry as I cannot find a father for either listed or any marriage to any Deborah's for that matter in that part of Kent fitting the time frame. So assuming now Deborah carried the Baldock name on, although need to make sure that is correct. So wondered if our branches might cross does your research have any later connections in Folkestone after 1830s ? David moved there and was later innkeeper in the town before he died in 1863.
Hi there
I don't have any record of a David Baldock in my records, however my Baldock ancestors are all 18th century so I don't have any info on any born post 1799.
Matt
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For information,
David Baldock was baptised at Mersham,
1820 Jan 30 David son of Deborah Baldock – baseborn
William Wood Baldock was baptised at Westwell,
1826 Jun 10 William Wood son of Deborah Baldock – otp – Single Woman
Deborah Baldock was baptised at Eastwell,
1797 Dec 3 Deborah daughter of William and Sarah Baldock – Privately, Publically admitted to Church 24 December.
Deborah was buried at Westwell,
1837 Oct 23 Deborah Baldock - from the West Ashford Union Workhouse, otp and said to be 38.
There may have been a (bastardy) hearing in relation to David Baldock’s father but, it is even less likely that it still exists.
One difficulty in researching David Baldock’s Family is that his wife in Census returns is shown as Ann! However, when he married at Folkestone on 3 November 1847 his wife was Rebecca Hancock. Her father was stated to be Stephen and David’s father was said to be David Baldock a Salesman! The death of David’s widow was registered in 1896 (at Elham District) as Ann Rebecca Baldock. Her age was noted to be 73.
You may well have all of this but, I thought it may prove useful in clarifying the family.
Tony
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Sorry couldn't work out how to delete this post I made without quoting who I was replying to.
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For information,
David Baldock was baptised at Mersham,
1820 Jan 30 David son of Deborah Baldock – baseborn
William Wood Baldock was baptised at Westwell,
1826 Jun 10 William Wood son of Deborah Baldock – otp – Single Woman
Deborah Baldock was baptised at Eastwell,
1797 Dec 3 Deborah daughter of William and Sarah Baldock – Privately, Publically admitted to Church 24 December.
Deborah was buried at Westwell,
1837 Oct 23 Deborah Baldock - from the West Ashford Union Workhouse, otp and said to be 38.
There may have been a (bastardy) hearing in relation to David Baldock’s father but, it is even less likely that it still exists.
One difficulty in researching David Baldock’s Family is that his wife in Census returns is shown as Ann! However, when he married at Folkestone on 3 November 1847 his wife was Rebecca Hancock. Her father was stated to be Stephen and David’s father was said to be David Baldock a Salesman! The death of David’s widow was registered in 1896 (at Elham District) as Ann Rebecca Baldock. Her age was noted to be 73.
You may well have all of this but, I thought it may prove useful in clarifying the family.
Tony
Thank you for this very kind of you. Sorry for late reply not been on here for few months only popped on once recently and missed this post reply. Just been getting back into my research working on 3 branches that I last left with brickwall having researched as much as I could free online. Having said that surprised from when I started just how much I have found starting from only small amount of info about two years ago.
I'm having some trouble further down line sat the moment accounting for what happened to one his daughters Fanny Baldock B1859 in Folkestone, who I believe unmarried she had Alfred in 1875 who later died age 13 in 1888. Not confirmed there could be more children at time of death she remained Baldock but not confirmed. Trying to find out if she did have anymore children she moved around most of her life between service and living with her widowed mother and other family members from census.
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There is another (linked possibly) illegitimate birth, at Folkestone, in 1881 of an Albert Edward Baldock who can be found as a nephew in 1891. He is living with a Charles and Eleanor Pryor.
Cannot find any others in the Elham District but if Mum moved about there may well be more!
Tony
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Hi.
Looking for any info re the following.
Cheers,
Gary
Australia.
Ann Baldock 1573 Mersham
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No details are given for Ann's parents in the parish records.
There was an Agnes BALDOCK buried in 1573.
There is a will for a Robert BALDOCK PRC/17/42/260a dated 1574 which might be worth investigating.
https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org
These could be her parents ???
BALDOCK does not seem to have been a common name in Mersham at that time.
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Just found this thanks to the info you sent. Brilliant.
Cheers,
Gary.
Immediate Family: Wife of Michael Philpott (762)
Mother of James Philpott
Judith
Last name Luff
Marriage year 1647
Marriage date 07 Dec 1647
Marriage place Willesborough, St Mary the Virgin
Spouse's first name(s) Michael
Spouse's last name Philpot
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P396/1/A/1
Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Year range 1538-1696
Record set Kent Marriages And Banns
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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Re: Baldocks in Westwell and Charing.
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No details are given for Ann's parents in the parish records.
There was an Agnes BALDOCK buried in 1573.
There is a will for a Robert BALDOCK PRC/17/42/260a dated 1574 which might be worth investigating.
https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org
These could be her parents
BALDOCK does not seem to have been a common name in Mersham at that time.
Anne Philpott (born BALDOCK), 1573 - 1624
Anne Philpott (born BALDOCK) was born on month day 1573, at birth place, Kent, to Robert Baldock and Agnes Baldock (born Helme).
Robert was born circa 1549, in Kent, England.
Agnes was born on August 12 1550, in Mayfield, Sussex, England.
Anne married Humphrey Philpott on month day 1596, at age 23 at marriage place, Kent.
Humphrey was born in 1570, in Elmsted Kent England.
They had 8 children: John Philpott, Ann Philpott and 6 other children.
Anne passed away in 1624, at age 50 at death place, Kent.
She was buried at burial place, Kent.
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I'm looking for a marriage of Anthony Baldock in the Charing area of Kent at sometime between 1639 and 1656.
It looks like my ancestor Thomas Baldock was christened in Charing in 1651 and was the son of Anthony. The only marriage so far found for Anthony is one by Licence at Little Chart.
26 Feb 1639 Anthony Baldocke (36, a Husbandman) and Martha Peck (37) both said to be of the Parish.
It seems a bit unlikely that Anthony was married in 1639 and didn't have any children [by Martha at least] until 1651. I've not been able to find any other children christened in Charing or nearby but there may be some.
So the question is did Anthony have other children between 1639 and 1651 or was there a different marriage?
Can anyone help?
Matt