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Title: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Tuesday 13 June 17 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi,
I came across this mention of an Elizabeth Nelson who died suddenly at Peaks Ferry in 1885.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111342468

I can't find a death record or Coroners report to find any more information about her.

mum mum
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: snoopy8 on Tuesday 13 June 17 09:21 BST (UK)
Hi Mum Mum
The article actually reads Peat's Ferry, but I had a quick look and couldn't find
Elizabeth Nelson death in that year, might be another name.  Keep searching.
Snoopy
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 13 June 17 09:50 BST (UK)
Evening News Thursday 8 Oct 1885
An inquest was held at Peat's Perry on the body of Elizabeth Nelson, who died suddenly on Friday. 
It appeared that she had been living with a person on the railway works. She was buried in the Eyde churchyard on Saturday night.


Should this be Ryde churchyard  (E and R close on keyboard)?

Possible?
NSW BDM death   (1 Oct 1885)
9091/1885 WATKIN  Elizabeth parents Donald / Mary A     @ Ryde

I suspect that the location is Peats Ferry, in 1885 site of construction of Great Northern Railway (Trove search).
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: cando on Tuesday 13 June 17 09:59 BST (UK)
Her death was on the previous Friday from Thurs 8 Oct which would have been 2nd Oct 1885.

Mum mum what interest do you have in an Elizabeth NELSON?  Do you know her year of birth?

Have you searched NSW just using Elizabeth and her dod?

Peats Ferry -
http://dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/peats_ferry
................ the name Peats Ferry was used for the locality around Kangaroo Point and the western part of what is now the village of Brooklyn in Hornsby shire.

Cando
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: Westward on Tuesday 13 June 17 12:07 BST (UK)
There is a NSW Inquest for Elizabeth Watkins {the scribe doesn't appear to cross t's or could be Walkins}
Date Returned: 14 Oct 1855
Coroner/Magistrate: J E Bowden     
Where Held: The Tunnel Ryde
When: 2nd Oct 1885
Name: Elizabeth Walkins/Watkins
Born: NSW
Age:  28 years
Locality died: Ryde
Result Inquest: Natural Causes


Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Wednesday 14 June 17 00:12 BST (UK)
Hi
The Elizabeth Nelson I am looking for was my GGG Grandmother, arrived in Swan River with the Broughton family on the Hooghey, married Henry Woods as Elizabeth Robinson. She left Henry in Tasmania and married John Nelson in Sydney, John seems to have disappeared, she spent time in Darlinghurst goal. If my internet would work I would look up details.
Born around 1818, I think from memory but would have told lies about her age I'm sure.

mum mum
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 14 June 17 06:02 BST (UK)
Where did your ggg grandmother die?  Can you please list all the information on the death certificate.

Can you identify the son / daughter of your great great great grandmother from whom you are descended.....your great great grand parent.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Wednesday 14 June 17 06:49 BST (UK)
I don't know where or when my GGG Grandmother Elizabeth Nelson died, or even what name she was calling herself when she died. She was born 1812 in Manchester, arrived in Swan River on the Hooghly in 1830 with the Broughton family, we have evidence which strongly suggests that she was Jane Broughton's daughter from a previous marriage.
She married Henry Wood in Freemantle in 1830, arrived in Tasmania in 1845 with Henry when he was convicted of theft again. She left Henry in Tasmania and married John Nelson in NSW in 1849.
Her daughter Elizabeth Jane Wood married William Holmes in Sydney. Elizabeth Nelson who arrived on the Hooghly is in Darlinghurst goal in 1859, this is the last positive sighting I have of her.
mum mum
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 14 June 17 07:24 BST (UK)
If you are wanting to research the origins of your great great grandmother - Elizabeth Jane Wood married William Holmes - it would be better to change the title of your post.

BDM NSW marriage
741/1853 V1853741 39C   WOOD Jane E  m.  HOLMES  William   @  MF
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Wednesday 14 June 17 09:16 BST (UK)
If you are wanting to research the origins of your great great grandmother - Elizabeth Jane Wood married William Holmes - it would be better to change the title of your post.

BDM NSW marriage
741/1853 V1853741 39C   WOOD Jane E  m.  HOLMES  William   @  MF
Umm, that's not what I asked for. I was looking for a death certificate, or coroners report for the Elizabeth Nelson who was mentioned in the newspaper that I linked to. As a family member of my Elizabeth Nelson was in the area at the time I was hoping to find more information to see if it was my Elizabeth Nelson.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 June 17 09:41 BST (UK)
This would seem to be the death of the woman mentioned by Westward.
(As mentioned by wivenhoe) ;D

WATKIN Elizabeth
9091/1885
Parents Donald & Mary A
At RYDE

 
So do you know the parents of your woman?
Sue

Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Wednesday 14 June 17 09:47 BST (UK)
Thanks but I'm sure that's not mine, the one mentioned in the newspaper is definitely Elizabeth Nelson, not Watkin. If that is somehow the one the newpaper mentions it's definitely not mine.
We are sure her Mother was Jane Broughton and that Joseph Broughton would have been her Stepfather. She would have been in her seventies by this time if it was my woman.
I just couldn't find a record of the death to rule this one out.
mum mum
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 June 17 09:54 BST (UK)
  A thought here.
I suspect the error is in the newspaper.  The item was possibly written from hand written notes, typed for publication.
In my opinion, NELSON and WATKIN,  in old script, could very easily be confused. The two names have a similar length, bulk and tall letters in the middle.

Sue
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 14 June 17 23:08 BST (UK)
From Ancestry, and records for Darlinghurst Gaol, Elizabeth NELSON, committed for vagrancy, 1859, born Manchester, arrived Hooghley...........arrived as a convict.

Is this the record you are referring to?. If not, can you please identify the gaol record you are seeing?

The Hooghly brought settlers to WA, 1830. The Hooghly brought male convicts to NSW, 1825 and 1827. This ship brought female convicts to NSW, 1831.

How have you identified Elizabeth NELSON, Darlinghurst Gaol, to be the woman who married John NELSON, NSW 1849, and to be the mother of Jane WOOD  m. William HOLMES, NSW 1853?.

Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: muss on Thursday 15 June 17 00:23 BST (UK)
Hi
tree on this site
 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi  lists Elizabeth  and Henry with a son Henry WATKINS Wood
  Elizabeth may have been using the name Watkins
Muss
Title: Re: Elizabeth Nelson death
Post by: mum mum on Thursday 15 June 17 05:26 BST (UK)
Hi
tree on this site
 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi  lists Elizabeth  and Henry with a son Henry WATKINS Wood
  Elizabeth may have been using the name Watkins
Muss
Yes that sparked my interest as well, Watkins was Henry's Mothers maiden name. But the death gives parents names which lead me to believe it was someone else.