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Title: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: Tim Brayshaw on Friday 16 June 17 12:07 BST (UK)
I have a John Holtby, according to the census, born about 1855 in Sutterton, Lincolnshire, England.

I have him on every census from 1871 to 1911 quite happily, but i can not find the first census he would be on.

Because i was stuck i ordered his marriage certificate to Harriet Gallon. That says he was 27 years old on April 23rd 1883, he was a widower, labourer by occupation and his father was Thomas Holtby, deceased at the time of marriage and he was also a labourer.

I just want to find him on the 1861 census to find his full parents' details so i can continue the line back.

Can anyone help with this at all?
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: jacquelineve on Friday 16 June 17 13:02 BST (UK)
Possibly yours..

Birth reg-John Holtby Sept qtr 1855 Boston -mothers maiden name-Bescoby

Jackie
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: sunflower on Friday 16 June 17 13:07 BST (UK)
There is a marriage on Freereg site

Thomas Holtby m Elizabeth Bescaby 2.9. 1849 at Gosberton.  His father named as William Holtby and her was Thomas Bescaby.

Carol
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: jacquelineve on Friday 16 June 17 13:08 BST (UK)
Have you noticed the William Holtby living next door but one to John in 1891 census..

Jackie
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: jacquelineve on Friday 16 June 17 13:15 BST (UK)
Re.1891 census..should have said Wlm a possible brother.

Jackie
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 16 June 17 13:15 BST (UK)
Parish records at Gasberton
Thomas Holtby buried 22.9.1861 age 35 years
Elizabeth 1.6.1868 age 37

William John Stokes Bescboby 13.2.1851 workhouse st Mary Nicholas Spalding
John Stokes June 1853 Boston- Dec 1854 (18months)
Rosina  Dec 1857-26.3.1860
Selina 25.7.1859-22.7.1859 (weird)
Hannah 16.9.1861-11.2.1862
George Handy s of Elizabeth widow 2.3.1864-27.12.1866



Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: Tim Brayshaw on Monday 03 July 17 00:43 BST (UK)
Quote from: ciderdrinker on Friday 16 June 17 13:15 BST (UK)
Parish records at Gasberton
Thomas Holtby buried 22.9.1861 age 35 years
Elizabeth 1.6.1868 age 37

William John Stokes Bescboby 13.2.1851 workhouse st Mary Nicholas Spalding
John Stokes June 1853 Boston- Dec 1854 (18months)
Rosina  Dec 1857-26.3.1860
Selina 25.7.1859-22.7.1859 (weird)
Hannah 16.9.1861-11.2.1862
George Handy s of Elizabeth widow 2.3.1864-27.12.1866



Ciderdrinker

I have just returned from holiday and noticed this. I must thank you for this information, it has given me birth years for Elizabeth and Thomas.

It is certainly strange that i can't find either of them on 1851 or 1861 as they were married in 1849 and hadn't passed away yet.
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: larkspur on Monday 03 July 17 11:38 BST (UK)
County   Lincolnshire
Place    Spalding
Church name   St Mary and St Nicholas
Baptism date   22 Apr 1853
Person forename   John Stokes
Person abode   Spalding Union House
Father forename   Thomas
Father surname   HOLTBY
Father occupation   Labourer
Mother forename   Elizabeth
Mother surname   HOLTBY

A little early I realise, but a previous birth??
Births Jun 1853 
Holtby    John Stokes        Spalding    7a   307
Title: Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
Post by: Tim Brayshaw on Monday 03 July 17 16:55 BST (UK)
Quote from: larkspur on Monday 03 July 17 11:38 BST (UK)
County   Lincolnshire
Place    Spalding
Church name   St Mary and St Nicholas
Baptism date   22 Apr 1853
Person forename   John Stokes
Person abode   Spalding Union House
Father forename   Thomas
Father surname   HOLTBY
Father occupation   Labourer
Mother forename   Elizabeth
Mother surname   HOLTBY

A little early I realise, but a previous birth??
Births Jun 1853 
Holtby    John Stokes        Spalding    7a   307

This seems to be the John that passed away at 18 months old according to the previous post.