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Title: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: annmck on Friday 16 June 17 17:06 BST (UK)
Any further information or hints regarding my Donegal ancestors is always appreciated.

I’ve finally found evidence that my Castledoe/Doe castle born gt grandmother, Bridget, had at least 3 siblings, and I’m now trying to work out the relationships between her, her 2 known sisters, Mary and Grace, and their husbands and children. Thanks to the Irish RC parish registers, I have been able to find more evidence of links between them.
 
1.   Grace O’DONNELL, daughter of James O’Donnell of Magheroarty (Creeslough NOT Gortahork), married Bernard CALLIG/MCCALLIG/ MCCALLOGUE (var. sp) son of Bernard Callig, of Fanmore (sic)  in Clondahorkey Chapel on 23 Jan 1870
(From the Dunfanaghy Registrar’s record Qtr 2  Vol 2 pg 99. The Clondahorkey RC PR entries are 1877-82 inclusive only)
 
2.   Bridget O’DONNELL, daughter of James O’Donnell of Magheroarty townland, married John DEVIR, son of John Devir of Magherablad, in Clondahorky chapel on 17 Feb 1878.                                               
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631930#page/4/mode/
(In the denunciationes column there is a remark, ditto of the entry above it. Can someone decipher/translate it, please?)

3.   Mary O’DONNELL, daughter of James O’Donnell of Magheroarty, married Francis MCBRIDE, of Creeslough, in Clondahorkey Chapel on 11 Aug 1880. http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000631930_007  first entry on lhs…(another denunciations entry for translation, please).
Mary evidently died, after having  4 chn between her marriage & abt 1889…I haven’t been able to find her death record,
 
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on 1 May 1897, Mary’s widower, Francis, married Rose MCCALLOGUE (sic) of Maheraroarty, daughter of Bernard McCallogue of Fanmore.
 
(This info comes from the Creeslough page of Donegal Genealogical Resources, and has a link to the marriage entry, but it is too blurry for me to make out…yes, another dispensation(?) entry!!)
Can we assume Rose is more likely to be Grace’s sister-in-law, i.e. her husband Bernard’s sister, rather than Grace & Bernard’s daughter.

Grace, Bridget & Mary had a brother, Michael. I know nothing more about him, so far.
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 17:48 BST (UK)
Have you searched Civil Registers?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 17:55 BST (UK)
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 Marriage of BERNARD CALLOG
in 1870
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Dunfanaghy
Returns Year   1870
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   2
Returns Page No   99

Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 17:59 BST (UK)
Few possibles... Images not online yet

 Death of MARY MCBRIDE in 1888
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Dunfanaghy
Deceased Age at Death   31
Returns Year   1888
Returns Quarter   2
Returns Volume No   2
Returns Page No   38
Death of MARY MCBRIDE in 1889
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Dunfanaghy
Deceased Age at Death   40
Returns Year   1889
Returns Quarter   2
Returns Volume No   2
Returns Page No   39
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 18:25 BST (UK)
on 1 May 1897, Mary’s widower, Francis, married Rose MCCALLOGUE (sic) of Maheraroarty, daughter of Bernard McCallogue of Fanmore.
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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 18:29 BST (UK)
 Marriage results for Michael ODonnell of Dunfanaghy Reg District!!  irishgenealogy

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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 18:32 BST (UK)
 Death results for James ODonnell of Dunfanaghy

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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 18:37 BST (UK)
 Grace O’DONNELL, daughter of James O’Donnell of Magheroarty (Creeslough NOT Gortahork), married Bernard CALLIG/MCCALLIG/ MCCALLOGUE (var. sp) son of Bernard Callig, of Fanmore (sic)  in Clondahorkey Chapel on 23 Jan 1870......

on 1 May 1897, Mary’s widower, Francis, married Rose MCCALLOGUE (sic) of Maheraroarty, daughter of Bernard McCallogue of Fanmore........

Can we assume Rose is more likely to be Grace’s sister-in-law, i.e. her husband Bernard’s sister, rather than Grace & Bernard’s daughter........???

 It LOOKS like it as Rose was "Aged" on Marriage above, not "Under age"
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Friday 16 June 17 18:48 BST (UK)
 Birth, Marriage and Death results for Rose McCallague of Dunfanaghy

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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: annmck on Saturday 17 June 17 00:52 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, Hallmark... ;  :) :) :) you've made my week!

Kicking myself for forgetting about the terrific irishgenealogy.ie site, as I've used it before  >:( ::)

(..suffering from intermittent bouts of ann-mnesia  ;D)

I wonder if anyone will be able to make out the Latin annotations...I have a dear old Latin scholar priest friend...but his eyesight isn't up to it  ;D

 
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 17 June 17 05:32 BST (UK)
 Bridget O’DONNELL,.... can't make it out!
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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 17 June 17 13:08 BST (UK)
have you seen this site

http://www.donegalgenealogy.com

then come down the pages and click on Clondahorky
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 17 June 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Mary.. can't make it out either...
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Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: annmck on Sunday 18 June 17 01:15 BST (UK)
Hi Rathmore & thanks for replying :). I've been a fan of the donegalgenealogy site for ages, but it's taken a looooong time to trace and confirm the correct names & townlands from so many possibilities  ::)

My grandfather was born here in Australia. He knew his parents had left their first-born - an infant daughter- behind in Donegal, when they emigrated, intending to bring her out when she was old enough to do so safely.

Sadly, his mother-nee Bridget O'Donnell- & his Australian born siblings all died before his 3rd birthday. His father, John Devir, was last heard of in 1903, in Perth, (3-4 thousand kms or 2-21/2 thousand miles away), where he'd gone to work in gold, then copper, mining...but no trace & no death cert. of course... ::)

So it's been a very slow & painstaking process, with wisps of oral history & trickles of info from Irish records, until the release of the R C parish records  ;D

A further complication was that my grandfather spent a lot of time, as a child, with 2 of his father's older, by 16 & 18 years respectively, brothers. They had emigrated to Australia 15 & 17 years earlier. 

There is evidence that they were from Kilmacrenan, and their father's forename was different to  their younger brother's, who was definitely from Magherablad near Creeslough.

There was vague talk that they were half brothers, and that their mother had married 2 Devir men.

Oh, to have time over to converse with those long gone! 
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: Frances holian on Sunday 05 January 20 12:30 GMT (UK)
Hi I’ve just seen your post about your ancestry and I’m originally a Mcbride and my grandad was called Francis Mcbride and my grandma was called rose. So I think we may be related, when you get this could you message me on Facebook messenger @francesholian. Thankyou
Title: Re: O'Donnell sisters marrying Devir, McBride & McCall(ig/ogue) Clondahorky RC
Post by: annmck on Wednesday 08 January 20 21:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Frances! I’ve just seen your post and will be in touch very soon as I’m in transit at the moment...I’m very excited to hear from you!
Cheers, annmck 😁