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Title: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 05:06 BST (UK)
Hi all Mary Pollard Nee Hughes
I have searched Ancestry and Heritage for my father's ancestors for 6 years now to no avail.
If anyone has any information I would appreciate the help. I know Evan Hughes parents were Evan Hughes born 1884 and Elizabeth Ann Roberts born about 1881 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales . I got that from Dads Death certificate. I have all descendants from their 6 children, their children, grand children and yes some great grand children. But nothing before my grandfather. I am willing to help find anyone you need if i can. I am in South Australia Australia.
Thank you
Mary Pollard
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 05:07 BST (UK)
Hi all Mary Pollard Nee Hughes
I have searched Ancestry and Heritage for my father's ancestors for 6 years now to no avail.
If anyone has any information I would appreciate the help. I know Evan Hughes parents were Evan Hughes born 1884 and Elizabeth Ann Roberts born about 1881 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales . I got that from Dads Death certificate. I have all descendants from their 6 children, their children, grand children and yes some great grand children. But nothing before my grandfather. I am willing to help find anyone you need if i can. I am in South Australia Australia.
Thank you
Mary Pollard
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 05:36 BST (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat

Could you pleased tell us where and when your father was born, also who were his siblings.  Do you have the family on the 1911 census

Rosie
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 17 June 17 05:39 BST (UK)
Evan Hughes m Elizabeth Ann Roberts 1903, Carnarvon.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 17 June 17 06:19 BST (UK)
Evan W Hughes  b1917 Llanfyllin, mother Roberts.

Elizabeth Annie Roberts  b1881 Swansea.      
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 07:04 BST (UK)
Evan Hughes & Elizabeth Anne Roberts From Caernarvonshire,  Wales
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 07:11 BST (UK)
Evan Hughes & Elizabeth Anne Roberts From Caernarvonshire,  Wales

Do you have their marriage certificate if so what information does it give
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 07:18 BST (UK)
Name:   Evan Hughes
Registration Year:   1903
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Carnarvon
Parishes for this Registration District:   View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:   Caernarvonshire
Volume:   11b
Page:   650
Evan and Elizabeth
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 07:32 BST (UK)
That is the GRO index - have you purchased the certificate
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 17 June 17 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi  marypollard10,
Do you have a middle name of initial for Evan 1884, there are so many in Carnarvon.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 07:48 BST (UK)
Solidrock I don't think that birth year is correct if I have located the correct family  :-\

Mary, did they have a son Alun Evan
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 17 June 17 07:53 BST (UK)
Solidrock I don't think that birth year is correct if I have located the correct family  :-\

Mary, did they have a son Alun Evan

Hi  rosie99,
I just found that 1911 as well, looks like b 1879, but it's all in welsh can't understand a word  ;D
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 08:06 BST (UK)
No I havent They are both passed on now.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 08:13 BST (UK)
Me neither  ;D

This looks like it could be Evan in 1901
RG13/5269 f25 p1
Robert Hughes   48 bn Gwalchmai, Anglesea
Margaret Hughes   48 bn N.K.
Evan Hughes   22
Robert Hughes   11
Jane Hughes   9
Lizzie Mary Hughes   3
children all born Llandwrog
John Thomas   4 adopted son bn Groeston
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 June 17 08:14 BST (UK)
No I havent They are both passed on now.

You are going to need to purchase the marriage certificate to be able to proceed with this.  We can speculate as to who the family is but it could be wrong.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 17 June 17 08:34 BST (UK)
Pretty sure the 1911 is right as they have been married 7 years. 1901, 1891 and 1881 all possible.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Saturday 17 June 17 10:12 BST (UK)
thats it i dont know kids names rosie
Thanks for help i'll see what i get out of the hints Guys
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 06:59 BST (UK)
I think i must of confused you all.
My father was Evan Hughes 1918
His father was Evan Hughes 1884
His father was Evan Hughes 1856
His father was Evan Hughes 1806
This was the information my father left me and i tend to think he should know, but finding it is hard. I did remember having an aunty Eirlys that has a daughter Glenys married to Phillip Stubb, i think still alive in Wrexham, UK LL137qf. i shall continue to look Thank you for your efforts.
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 07:18 BST (UK)
If you know all this already what do you want us to find?
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 18 June 17 07:39 BST (UK)
Hi

I can understand that you think your father should know but did he get all of the certificates to back up this information.  :-\   There are a couple of examples of Evan Hughes with father Evan that would fit what your father has given you date wise.

Based on the information you gave us ie  your fathers parents were Evan Hughes & Elizabeth Anne Roberts and that Elizabeth was born Swansea the 1911 census which I am not allowed to give details on here seems to tie in with that information.

If you don't have the marriage certificate for Evan & Elizabeth Anne I think that you should be considering getting it to establish who their fathers were etc.

You need to remove details of Eirlys daughter and her husband from your post if they are still living.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 18 June 17 07:49 BST (UK)
Going back to Eirlys - possible birth reg if only she was on the 1911  ???

Births Sep 1912 
Hughes    Eirlys    mmn Roberts   
Carnarvon    11b   769

She appears to have married William Thomas in 1936  ;)
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 07:53 BST (UK)
no i havent and dont knoiw where to get it from.
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 07:58 BST (UK)
Sorry getting used to this
Uploaded the marriage certificate
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 08:00 BST (UK)
You can get certs here.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 08:05 BST (UK)
I take it thats your fathers marriage cert. Do your grand fathers wifes name and the wives of the other Evan Hughes you mentioned. All the census's are in Welsh and it's difficult to work out which is the right one.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918 ok
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 08:23 BST (UK)
I cant read Gaelic either lol
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 18 June 17 08:33 BST (UK)
Going from that address in Wales I believe that it is very likely that Alun who I mentioned earlier born c1904 is your fathers brother.

He appears to have died in 1945
Alun E Hughes
Death Registration March qtr 1945
Age at Death 40
Reg district Carnarvon
11b / 507

The only way for you to be sure is to buy the marriage certificate for Evan Hughes & Elizabeth Roberts though.

Do you know the names of any of your fathers siblings other than Eirlys
Title: Evan Hughes family
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 08:45 BST (UK)
This is the marriage cert.
Mary i dont understand how you can find Alun
Mary
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 08:52 BST (UK)
Quick Welsh language lesson.

Penteulu - Head
Mab - Son
Merch - Daughter
Gweddw - Widow
Sengl - Single
Gwraig - Wife
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 09:05 BST (UK)
Alun is a son of  Evan Hughes & Elizabeth Roberts and hopefully so is your father.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 18 June 17 09:07 BST (UK)
The marriage cert you need is for Evan & Elizabeth, not the Evan you have posted.
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 June 17 09:17 BST (UK)
The marriage cert you need is for Evan & Elizabeth, not the Evan you have posted.

  GRO index.      Carnarvon    11b   650
Title: Re: Evan Hughes family from Llanfyllin, Merionethshire, Wales born 1918
Post by: marypollard10 on Sunday 18 June 17 09:21 BST (UK)
Ill try and get it. Thanks
Mary