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Title: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 03:16 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I am looking for the baptism and parents of Lydia Thurgood.

Lydia married John Edridge 8 Sep 1813 Much Hadham but the online parish transcriptions don't include any father's names.

In 1841 Lydia Etteridge of Ash Street Little Hadham is rounded down to 50 years old.

In 1851 Lydia Etridge of Ash Street Little Hadham is indexed as 65 years old but could be 63 as the age is obscured by page markings, born Much Hadham.

I cannot find any reference to any Lydia Thurgood in either location.  There is an odd baptism of an Izze Thurgood 22 January 1788 Much Hadham but without a look at the actual page it is impossible to know if this is a transcription error.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Mirl.


Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 03:37 BST (UK)
Looked at original.

Izze or Izza, daughter of Thomas and Mary Thurgood.  born Jan 7, baptised Jan 22.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 03:53 BST (UK)
Marriage was by licence. witnesses, Mary SCHOOLING and John FULLER.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 04:19 BST (UK)
Looks like Izze is a dead end unless it's really poorly written Lydia.

Witness names are unfamiliar to me but will now have a look about for possible connections.




Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 04:45 BST (UK)
There is a Lydia Thurgood b1788, died 28 Apr 1866, Great Hadham.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 04:54 BST (UK)
I have seen that before and has had me going for a bit until I realized my Lydia would be Etteridge at death.

This Lydia will have married a Thurgood so its worth pursuing further to see if he may be a brother.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 22 June 17 05:12 BST (UK)
Doesn't help much, but I have a Sarah and Mary Ann ELLCOCK who both worked for Lydia THURGOOD (Sarah in the 1851, and Mary Ann in the 1861). This Lydia was born around 1790 in Much Hadham, and was a grocer and draper. I haven't followed her family, but I suspect could be related.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 22 June 17 05:14 BST (UK)
I think that Lydia was married to Wright (?) THURGOOD. They are on the 1841 census together with 9yr old son George.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 05:27 BST (UK)
Aright Thurgood married Lydia Beadle at Much Hadham in 1823.
This Lydia is probably the one with Sarah and Mary Ann Ellcock as Aright died in 1842.


In 1851 my Lydia was an Etridge and then she died in 1857.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 22 June 17 05:42 BST (UK)
Oh yes, I realised it wasn't your Lydia.  ;D Just thought they may have been related through marriage. Though having a quick look at Much Hadham/Bishops Stortford baptisms, I realise there are quite a few THURGOOD families.

Does the marriage record for your Lydia say if she was a spinster or widow?
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 06:15 BST (UK)
I have only found transcriptions on line.

Solidrock found the original earlier as by license and gave witnesses but I assumed it didn't mention status.  Maybe they will come back with that later.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 07:15 BST (UK)
I have only found transcriptions on line.

Solidrock found the original earlier as by license and gave witnesses but I assumed it didn't mention status.  Maybe they will come back with that later.

No status.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 07:27 BST (UK)
Nothing more to be gained from the marriage entry then.

She was a pauper in 1851 so unlikely to have left a will, same for her husband.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 07:38 BST (UK)

Nothing more to be gained from the marriage entry then.

She was a pauper in 1851 so unlikely to have left a will, same for her husband.

Can't find 1841.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Thursday 22 June 17 08:03 BST (UK)
John Etteridge age 55 Ag Lab
Lydia Etteridge age 50
Sarah Etteridge 11mths

Little Hadham Herts
Piece 443
Book 8
Folio15
Page 25
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 22 June 17 08:16 BST (UK)
Thanks, found it now.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Friday 23 June 17 06:32 BST (UK)
If the marriage was by license, is there any way to find the allegation and/or bond that would have come before it?
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: solidrock on Friday 23 June 17 07:13 BST (UK)
If the marriage was by license, is there any way to find the allegation and/or bond that would have come before it?

It should be at the records office.
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Friday 23 June 17 07:47 BST (UK)
Thanks, I shall try them
Title: Re: Lydia Thurgood baptism 1780's Much/Little Hadham
Post by: mirl on Friday 27 May 22 02:51 BST (UK)
Hi All,

After five years I am revisiting this thread because I still haven't located Lydia's baptism.

I am actually fascinated with the entry for Izze Thurgood at Little Hadham born 7 Jan 1788 baptised 22 Jan 1788 to Thomas and Mary Thurgood.

There are only seven references of anyone named "Izze" on the entire ancestry site, two of which are on the same page in Little Hadham; Izze Thurgood as above and Izze Levy daughter of William and Sarah Levy born 22 Feb 1788 and baptised 25 Feb 1788.

There are no other references for either of these two girls anywhere that I can find, even as Isobel in any spelling arrangement, so I want to assume that an error of some sort was made when the register was completed.

Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.