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Title: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 24 June 17 11:56 BST (UK)
I Have Mary Jane Glover b little barrington GLS 1864, I have her on the 1881 census single with parents. I believe she married a Joseph Tyrell cannot find marriage in uk she died Pensylvania US 1946 can someone locate her on a passenger list post 1881
MANY THANKS
KITMAN
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 24 June 17 12:12 BST (UK)
1900 Census Philadelphia Ward 24, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania shows marriage 1888 and immigration 1890  ???  1910 says immigrated 1894 - Of course these dates are not always right  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 12:30 BST (UK)
His US CITIZENSHIP PAPERS:

Joseph Evan TYRRELL
B 17 March 1859, Harrow, England
Emigrated to the US on 14 March 1890, from Liverpool, England
Arrived in New York on 1 April 1890 on the vessel 'City of Richmond'.
Occupation: Dealer
Wife: Mary, born Chedworth, England.
Declaration of Intention filed in Philadelphia (to become a US Citizen) filed  5 January 1898.
His Petition was duly filed, and his Citizenship was fully granted 1914.

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 24 June 17 12:35 BST (UK)
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Joseph Evan TYRELL

The surname is Tyrrell
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 12:36 BST (UK)
City of Richmond
Arrived New York 1 April 1890 out of Liverpool England,
Joseph GLOVER age 31, Grocer, England, Harrow, NY
Mary GLOVER 26, England, Harrow, NY

 :o

The document is a bit damaged. 
The column headings: Calling (Grocer) , Citizenship, Last residence, Intended Destination.

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 12:39 BST (UK)
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Joseph Evan TYRELL

The surname is Tyrrell

So it is  :)  and so it is on the 1900 Census - I've amended my post accordingly.
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 12:51 BST (UK)
MARRIAGE
On 8 Jun 1899, Manhattan, New York
Joseph E TYRRELL
Mary J GLOVER

http://www.italiangen.org/
http://www.italiangen.org/records-search/grooms.php

Cheers
AMBLY

Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 24 June 17 13:02 BST (UK)
Looks like Joseph Evan Tyrrell is a man of some mystery.

He's in the 1881 census as a lodger in Devizes: Joseph E Tirrell, brewer's traveller. Can't find him before 1881 at first pass.

Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 24 June 17 13:08 BST (UK)
many thank for the info bit of a quandary here; marriage 1899 Manhattan NY, Arrived New York 1 April 1890 out of Liverpool England,
Joseph GLOVER age 31, Grocer, England, Harrow, NY
Mary GLOVER 26, England, Harrow, NY
should that be joseph and mary tyrell
kitman
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 13:09 BST (UK)
His 1929 Death Cert doesn't help much either - no parents names:

Joseph F? L? E? TYRRELL
Died 11 Oct 1929, aged 71 yrs, 6mths & 24 days
DoB 17 Mar 1859, born England
Married - wife Mary TYRRELL
Occupation: Salesman
Parents names: Not recorded
Informant: Mary TYRRELL of 515, North 41st St.

His  middle initial, as written on the certificate may be a badly formed E, has been transcribed as an L, and looks a bit like an F to me. 

Cheer
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 24 June 17 13:15 BST (UK)
Joseph visited England in 1922, and returned to NYC on the Olympic in October.

The passport application names his father as James Tyrrell.
Date of birth 17 March 1859.
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 13:15 BST (UK)
many thank for the info bit of a quandary here; marriage 1899 Manhattan NY, Arrived New York 1 April 1890 out of Liverpool England,
Joseph GLOVER age 31, Grocer, England, Harrow, NY
Mary GLOVER 26, England, Harrow, NY
should that be joseph and mary tyrell
kitman

Nope  ;D, they immigrated under the name of GLOVER in 1890.
They married 9 years later in 1899.
And on the 1900 US Census the year after they married, they said they'd been married 12 years....

This all points to something they are trying to avoid or evade. A first wife, perhaps - or husband?

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 24 June 17 13:21 BST (UK)
UK address given for the 1922 visit was Hook House, Basingstoke
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 24 June 17 13:44 BST (UK)
It does seem something or someone they were trying to avoid, mary jane  was my g/granfathers sister, many thanks for all the info
kitman
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 24 June 17 13:47 BST (UK)
Parents listed on marriage:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZN-77J

Theodosia NEWMAN didn't marry James TYRRELL until 1862 so I think Joseph must be the Joseph Evan NEWMAN born Mar Qtr 1858 Pewsey.
He's with his grandmother Ann Newman in 1861 as Evan NEWMAN.

Maureen
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 13:59 BST (UK)
Great find Maureen  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 14:04 BST (UK)
BAPTISM:
Joseph Evan NEWMAN
Baptised 2 Apr 1858, in Parish of Manningford Abbots, Wilts
Mother: Theodosia NEWMAN, Singlewoman
Abode: Manningford

(No DoB on the Baptism record)

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 24 June 17 14:05 BST (UK)
 ;) ;)
Thanks,Ambly.
He was throwing us a curve ball with the "born in Harrow" bit. :)

Maureen
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 24 June 17 14:15 BST (UK)
He was indeed   ;D 8)

His mother and husband James TYRELL and their issue did end up in Harrow by the looks of it  - Census 1871 (RG10 / Piece 1324 / Folio 107 / Pg37)  and Baptisms of some of their children. She died 1871 in Harrow, Theodosia TYRRELL age 32. 

And in 1861, Theodosia NEWMAN  is in Surrey, visiting a Thomas TYRRELL (36) and family
RG 9/ Piece 364 /Folio: 59 /pg1

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 24 June 17 19:50 BST (UK)
again many thanks for all the info, so much appreciated for all your help
kitman