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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: tempogold on Saturday 24 June 17 17:55 BST (UK)
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Hello
I know when Marjorie Nimmons was born ( 20/8/1926 Randlestown , died Feb 2009 Belfast) but can not obtain a birth cert from Groni as I do not know her mothers maiden name. Marjorie never married . I have found a search on Groni direct is not possible as her birth is not over 100 years ago. Any suggestions as to how I can try and find the names of her parents.Alas no 1939 register for Northern Ireland .
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I can't find Marjorie but there are a couple of marriages for Nimmons in Randalstown.
Hugh Nimmons to Isabella Scott (Presbyterian) 1915
Robert Nimmons to Jane Charlton (Presbyterian) 1920
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Based on her sister S (I haven't given full forename in case she is still living) Beattie Nimmons' marriage notice in the Ballymena Weekly Telegraph, their father was James, so neither marriage mentioned in post 2 would match, unfortunately.
Perhaps the 'Beattie' is a clue, though, or are you aware of Marjorie also having a 'surname' as a middle name at all? Ushers at the marriage included the surnames McCracken and Graham, cousins of the bride. An uncle, the Rev Joseph Nimmons, was one of those who officiated.
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Meant to say, not knowing her mother's maiden name shouldn't prevent the certificate being ordered via GRONI, as the maiden name box is not a 'required field', merely an optional one.
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Rev Joseph Nimmons was possibly the one who was son of a Robert Nimmons, J.P., of Randalstown.
James Nimmons may have been the same one associated with a shop in Randalstown known as Robert Nimmons & son.
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Robert Nimmons, J.P. died in 1939. As per the death notice in local newspaper of the time, he had a flourishing boot and shoe business and was originally from Leitrim (possibly the townland of this name in Randalstown rather than the County).
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Minister No. 6 was Rev Joseph Nimmons, formerly a missionary serving in Manchuria, China, appointed to Newmills in 1932. He was a classics scholar and held regular Hebrew and Greek classes in the Manse.
http://www.newmillspresbyterian.com/index.php/raising-the-bar-newmills-a-potted-history/
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Thank you all. Her sister S Beattie Nimmons died before her sister.
Would it be possible to have the date of the paper that mentioned her marriage. Her husband also died some years ago having remarried.
If I follow the post s correctly it looks like Robert is the father of James and Joseph.
Very many thanks.
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The wedding was noted in the June 13th 1956 edition of the Belfast News Letter and in the June 22nd edition of the Ballymena Weekly Telegraph.
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Many thanks for that .i have assumed they married in Randlestown.
I have found quite a few siblings of her father James . It appears from Groni that he was born 8/2/1897 . His father Robert Nimmons married a Margaret elizabeth moore 18 Aug 1882 at Antrim ist Presb church.
Have not been able to find who James married or his death despite putting in a range of dates into Groni. Begining to wonder if the sisters had other siblings i dont know about .
Without your help would not have got this far.
Very Many Thanks
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Have you tried using GRONI database to search for marriage of James Nimmons?
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kao/ gets you all Civil Reg stuff for Surname all over Ireland, you can then select whatever Reg District you want from list on left... etc
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kao/ gets you all Civil Reg stuff for Surname all over Ireland, you can then select whatever Reg District you want from list on left... etc
Since Marjorie was born 1926 and her father 1897 then it's quite possible Marjorie's parents married in the 1920s and Irish Genealogy only covers N.I. records up to 1921.
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GRONI index has an out of district marriage, in Belfast area January 1925, of a James Nimmons to a Victoria Brown. It might be worth checking, even if only to rule it out.
Some Nimmons from Randalstown did, it seems, have links to Belfast. A James Nimmons of Cliftonville Avenue, Belfast, who died in 1956, aged 84 years, was apparently for many years a well known member of the Salvation Army in Belfast and a native of Randalstown. He seems to have had a painting and decorating business at Cliftonville.
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Death Notice for Thomas Nimmons Waringstown
18 December, 2013
Thomas Edwin (Eddie) Nimmons, passed away on December 18. Devoted husband of * and loving dad of * and *. The Funeral Service will take place on Friday (December 20) at 2.30 p.m. in Waringstown Presbyterian Church (for directions, see right). Interment to follow in the adjoining burying ground. No flowers please. Donations in lieu of flowers may be made
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Robert (Bob) Nimmons, late of Lisburn, passed away on February 21 at Lisburn Intermediate Care Home. Dearly beloved husband of *, loving father to * and *, father-in-law to *, and a devoted grandfather and great-grandfather. The Funeral Service will take place on Tuesday (February 25) at 2 p.m. in Railway Street Presbyterian Church, Lisburn . Interment to follow in Lisburn New Cemetery, Blaris
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William (Billy) Nimmons, late of Lisburn, passed away suddenly on April 18, April, 2014 in his 73rd. year. Beloved husband of *, much loved father of *, dear father-in-law of *, devoted granda to *. The Funeral Service will take place on Tuesday (April 22) at 11 a.m. in Railway Street Presbyterian Church, Lisburn . Interment to follow in Lisburn New Cemetery, Blaris Family flowers only please. Donations in lieu of flowers may be made (for details, see right). Will be lovingly remembered and sadly missed by his wife, daughter, family and wider Family Circle.
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Robert (Bob) Nimmons, late of Lisburn, passed away on 21/02/2014 at Lisburn Intermediate Care Home. Dearly beloved husband of *, loving father to * and *, father-in-law to *,........................
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Cecil Nimmons, O.B.E., late of Drumbo, Lisburn, passed away suddenly on January 10 2016. Beloved brother of *, * and the late *, and brother-in-law of *. A Service of Thanksgiving will take place on Thursday (January 14) at 10.30 a.m. in Ronnie Thompson's Funeral Church, Lisburn. Burial to follow in Dundonald Cemetery
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There are lots of Nimmons details online but I'm not sure that posting random items really helps find Marjorie's family ::)
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Many thanks for all the hints.Yes saw the death of a James Nimmons in Belfast who may be the one married to Victoria Brown ???
Need to explore that. Certainly a marriage date of 1925 would fit.
I had Initally ruled the Cliftonville Ave Nimmons out, as his probate details on Proni list 3 children --all new names to me and does not include the names of the 2 sisters I am researching . But will think again . Have put everything I have discovered so far on a tree on Ancestry which is public. No doubt some link back to folks in Randlestown.
From only a couple of names and a few dates have made graet strides. thanks
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Many thanks for all the hints.Yes saw the death of a James Nimmons in Belfast who may be the one married to Victoria Brown ???
Need to explore that. Certainly a marriage date of 1925 would fit.
I had Initally ruled the Cliftonville Ave Nimmons out, as his probate details on Proni list 3 children --all new names to me and does not include the names of the 2 sisters I am researching . But will think again . Have put everything I have discovered so far on a tree on Ancestry which is public. No doubt some link back to folks in Randlestown.
From only a couple of names and a few dates have made graet strides. thanks
I was thinking more along the lines of the Cliftonville James possibly having been an uncle to your Marjorie's father, James, rather than having been the chap who married Victoria, as he would have been c53 yrs old in 1925 (albeit not impossible that he married at that age).
Marjorie's father, if he was the chap who married in Belfast in 1925, perhaps spent some time working in the Belfast area.
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Ballymena Weekly Telegraph, 15 Oct.1943: Summoned for endangering her own safety and that of other road users. Victoria M. Nimmons, Main Street,. Randalstown, was fined ss. It was stated that she stepped out in front of a military despatch rider
Ballymena Observer, 22 Oct.1943: Summoned for endangering her own safety and that of other road users, Victoria M. Nimmons, Main Street, Randalstown, was fined 5s. It was staked that she stepped out front military despatch rider, throwing him
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Alas no 1939 register for Northern Ireland .
See here about 1939 N.I. Register and how to obtain details from it-
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/1939-national-register.html
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How very interesting . Perhaps Victoria M nee Brown who married in Belfast in 1925 is indeed the sisters mother. But there are so many James Nimmons that this will take a while. Love the comments from the local newspaper.
However just found out from another relative that they are sure Marjorie was Victoria M Nimmons and ancestry has telephone records for someone of that name in the 1970s in Belfast.
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Perhaps her mother was also Victoria and Marjorie was known by her middle name.
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Victoria Margaret Nimmons, age 82, died 11 Feb.2009 Belfast
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Thank You Aghadowery. I had seen and dismissed that record as I had seen her order of service .
Butafter all the info above decided to order a Birth certificate as Victoria M and yes it came back as Victoria Margaret. Her mother was Victoria Mary Brown . On the hunt for records for her parents death .Victoria Mary Nimmons and James Nimmons. No idea when they died . But if any one has access to a newspaper site that would be helpful. Given the poss time scale say late50s/early 60s ( guesstmate only) it might have been reported locally and in a Belfast paper.
Many Thanks
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Couldn't see a death on GRONI for any Victoria Nimmons 1945-1966. There were a few James and also Mary's.
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Wonder if they could have lived in Scotland (although impossible to say from this snippet)-
Motherwell Times, 6 Dec.1946: ... included songs by Songster Nora Graham, Ireland, and Bandsman H. Stewart; readings by Mrs D. M'Allister; piano solos by Mrs James Nimmons, Ireland; violin solos by Miss Jean Ashforth, saxophone solo by Bandsman R. Stewart, and selections by the Motherwell...
What does Victoria's birth certificate give for her father's occupation?
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Take it that is Victoria Margaret -or-( Marjorie) . Fathers occupation shop keeper. He had a Boot and shoe shop in Randlstown. Now i am cetain that the Belfast Marriage of James Nimmons to Victoria M Brown in 1925 ( earlier post) are her parents, will order their marraige cert as know nothing about her mother.
Sorry no Idea about any Scottish link. As her sister Shelia married in Randlestown in june 1956 I assume Their parents still living in the area.
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You do know that you can view the marriage certificate on GRONI for a few credits?
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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Much more to come but found this!
NIMMONS
In loving memory of JAMES NIMMONS
Died 27th November 1971
Also his dear wife VICTORIA MARY HUNTER
Died 31st October 1972
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanmccarthy36/st_pauls_school_records.htm
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Great . Thank You
Have found their marriage on Groni as you suggested 21/1/1925 Belfast. Father is a Frederick William Brown ,Merchant. A witness is a Jane Douglas Brown so perhaps a sister to Victoria.
Found Victoria Mary Hunter Brown birth on Groni . born Belfast 1 June 1892. Mothers name Agness Brown formely Spence.
At last knocking down a few walls.
thank you .
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Oh Help . Just looked at that link and even more Nimmons from Randlestown. I have the parents of James who marries Victoria in 1925 as Robert and Margaret ( Moore) who marry 18/8/1982 Antrim ist Pres Church. From Groni i notice his father was James a farmer and not another Robert which is what I thought. Not sure were my James senior is on that fantastic list of names the link takes me to.
Coffee time me thinks.
thanks
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I'm just seeing all of these James Nimmons listed in Randalstown area and wondered if anyone came across a James Nimmons and Mary Graham marriage or any details on who this particular James Nimmons parents may have been. I have no dates at all for James but Mary Graham was born about 1921 and died August 18, 2006 in (supposedly) Newtownabbey, Antrim, Northern Ireland. The only son I know of was born in Belfast n 1949 and died in 2005.
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I'm just seeing all of these James Nimmons listed in Randalstown area and wondered if anyone came across a James Nimmons and Mary Graham marriage or any details on who this particular James Nimmons parents may have been. I have no dates at all for James but Mary Graham was born about 1921 and died August 18, 2006 in (supposedly) Newtownabbey, Antrim, Northern Ireland. The only son I know of was born in Belfast n 1949 and died in 2005.
The official NI Government 'GRONI' website (link below) has available online the civil record for a Belfast-registered marriage in the names of James Nimmons and Mary Graham, it took place on 3 June 1943, the full record should include their addresses, together with the names of the two fathers and fathers' occupations, it is pay to view:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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The official NI Government 'GRONI' website (link below) has available online the civil record for a Belfast-registered marriage in the names of James Nimmons and Mary Graham, it took place on 3 June 1943, the full record should include their addresses, together with the names of the two fathers and fathers' occupations, it is pay to view:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Oh geez.. I spent hours on that site a few months back looking for their marriage and couldn't find it.. lol. Thank you very much!
Sherry