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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: Bullamore on Monday 26 June 17 01:22 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am looking for a marriage for James Sharpe bn 1865 Polesworth, Warks.
Can someone help plz.
Thank you.
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Hi still looking but I believe he married Bessie Jones December qtr 1907 Atherstone 6d 852, a Bessie SHARP died September qtr 1929 Atherstone 6d 524 aged 62, also James SHARP died June qtr 1943 Atherstone 9d 585 aged 78
Keyboard86
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I too think he married Bessie Jones -but cannot finbd a record of them together
Suz
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I think James Sharpe bn 1865 and Bessie Jones bn 1856.
Had 1 son Albert Sharpe bn 1873 Glascote mrd Eliza Jones bn 1874 Warks. Married 12 May 1896.
They had 3 children. William H. Sharpe bn 1897. Francis M. Sharpe bn 1898. and Albert S. Sharpe bn 1900 all Warks?
Thank you.
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New GRO index
Tamworth registration district (incudes Glascote)
1873 M Quarter Tamworth vol. 06b page 430 Albert Sharp mothers maiden name GRIMLEY
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Born 1865 he can't have had a son in 1873.
James Sharp married Mary Grimley 1866.
This James Sharp was born 1849 Staffs.
Which James Sharp are you interested in ?
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Hello, I am looking for James Sharp/e bn 1865 Polesworth, Warks who mrd Bessie Jones bn 1856 .
Warks.
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James can be found in all the published censuses. We can't give you detailed information from the 1911 census, but a free search suggests he's there as James Sharpe, and that he and Bessie were not enumerated together. He appears to have stayed local to Polesworth, but his birthplace sometimes appears as Birchmoor or Birchmore.
The couple do not appear to have had any children, but that is unsurprising as Bessie would (if born in 1856 as you say) have been over 50 at the time of their marriage.
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Hi again, the Bessie Sharp death I show in 1929 suggests b c 1867, what evidence do you have that the Bessie Jones who married James in 1907 was born c 1856?
Keyboard86
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Dec 1907 James mrd Bessie Jones.
1911 6, St Helen Square.Polesworth Warks.
James Sharpe 46yrs mrd 3 years. Coal miner. Bn Birchmoore. Warks.
No Children.
Bessie appears to be an inmate/patient at Hatton Budbrooke Hospital ie the Warwickshire County Lunatic Asylum. Recorded as b. Sharpe. 45yrs Female bn in New Windsor,Orange County. USA.
Of course died in 1929 in Polesworth.Warks.
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Bessie appears to be an inmate/patient at Hatton Budbrooke Hospital ie the Warwickshire County Lunatic Asylum. Recorded as b. Sharpe. 45yrs Female bn in New Windsor,Orange County. USA.
Not sure where the Orange County, USA comes from - is this info you know from another source about Bessie?
Anyway it sounds as though you know where they were in 1911 - not sure what you're looking for really?
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Hi again, so if you knew all this, I agree what do you want to know?
Keyboard86
PS are you certain it could not be New Windsor in Berkshire?
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1881 census Polesworth Warwickshire
John R Jones 48 born Worcestershire, labourer
Margaret 46 born Canterbury Orange County USA
Frederick 24 born New Windsor Orange County USA
Gerard 16 ditto (Later as Thomas Gerard Jones ?)
Bessie 14 Ditto
Annie 10 born Newburgh Orange County USA
1891 Bessie is 24 a visitor born Newburgh USA with William B Wheatley and family in Polesworth
1901 Bessie is 35 living with her brother Fred William Jones and family also in Polesworth.
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1870 census of Newburgh Ward 4, Orange County New York
John Jones 36 born England
Margaret 35 born New York
Frederick 11 ditto
Thomas 5 ditto
Bessie 4 ditto
This will be the State of New York not the city
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Bessie' father John Richard Barrett Jones was buried 13 August 1906 age 74 from Polesworth Parish Records.
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1881 census Polesworth Warwickshire
John R Jones 48 born Worcestershire, labourer
Margaret 46 born Canterbury Orange County USA
Frederick 27 born New Windsor Orange County USA
Gerard 16 ditto
Bessie 14 Ditto
Annie 10 born Newburgh Orange County USA
1891 Bessie is 24 a visitor born Newburgh USA with William B Wheatley and family in Polesworth
1901 Bessie is 35 living with her brother Fred William Jones and family also in Polesworth.
😂 Well that seems to confirm born in the USA, but why the original question and not born c 1856?
Keyboard86
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1865 census of Utica, Oneida County New York
John R Jones born Wales 33 under col number of times married 2
Margaret age 30 number of times married 1
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1901 Census Polesworth
John Richard Jones 68 fish Hawker born Worcester
Margaret 66 born Canterbury Cornwall USA the USA is crossed out and Ontario Canada added.
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It would be interesting to find out when Bessie Sharp was admitted to Hospital, from GRO index
there was a James Sharp born 1909 registered Atherstone mothers maiden name Jones.
Its a possibility as Bessie was about 40 at the time, this child died the same year 1909 age 0, did she suffer from post partum depression or grief from having lost a child?
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Hi all I stumbled onto this thread by doing a Google search for "Thomas Gerard Jones" (Bessie's brother) and was ecstatic to see my family being discussed here. I was hoping someone could maybe help me with my research??? I can't seem to get past John Richard Basset Jones (Bessie's father) born 1832 in Worcestershire, any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Hello,
I don't have much on my tree about Bessie Jones on my family tree.
I have that Bessie Jones bn in 1856 mrd James Sharp/e bn 1865 Polesworth, Warks.
His parents were Elijah Sharp/e and Sarah Ann Bates.
I will do a look up for you.
Regards
Bullamore.
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Hello again
I have Frederick W. Jones c.1857 Polesworth, Warks mrd Mary Jane Wilson c.1862 Polesworth,Wks.
They mrd in Polesworth 1884.
Children:-
All bn Polesworth, Warks.
Frederick T. Jones bn 1889.
Harry Jones bn 1891
Frank Jones bn 1893.
Arthur Jones bn 1894.
Ernest Jones bn ?
Hilda Jones bn 1900.
I check, as i think the family went to live in Orange County, U.S.A.
Bullamore.
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1881 Hill End, Polesworth, Warks.
John R. Jones 48yrs old Labour bn Worcs.
Margaret Jones 46 yrs bn Canterbury, Orange County, U.S.A
Frederick Jones son 24 yrs old a Labour bn in Orange County, USA.
Gerard Jones son 16yrs old, bn in New Windsor, Orange County, USA,
Bessie Jones dau 14yrs old, bn in New Windsor, Orange Country, USA.
Annie Jones dau 10yrs old, bn Newburgh, Orange Country, USA.
Bullamore.
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Ernest Jones was bn in 1900 Polesworth.
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Bullamore thanks for the reply. John Jones did migrate to New York was married and had children there. I don’t know why, but he moved back to UK to Polesworth. I get a lot of hits with Fred Jones and people with ties to the Wilson family, but they never have any Jones that they are researching. I keep hoping someone on the Jones side can make a connection for me, but no luck yet. I know Thomas married Edith Wilson which was Mary Jane’s sister. I have more details if anyone may be able to help. Thanks again Bullamore let me know if you do come across anything else. Cheers
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There is a Richard Jones who married Ann Bassett by license 31 January 1815 at Polesworth.
Perhaps instead of working backwards you could find out all his children and make a connection that way.
Wills are needed if possible to work out family relationships, for instance if Ann Bassett' father left a will he may name grandchildren
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Hi amondg, It's funny you bring up Ann Bassett I actually have the marriage certificate for John and Ann. Ann was a minor and had to bring her brother with a note saying that it was ok have her marry John. The note was from their mother, because the father was deceased. I had a lady from Bassett Branches.org think this was right. I am skeptical, because that would mean that John was born 17 years after they were married and they lived in Polesworth. On the census it says he was born in Worcestershire. Do you think this is possible? Any help to where I can look this up would be great. Thanks so much
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On the question of being born 17 years after they married you answered yourself, Ann was under 21
when she married and its possible she had children every two years for the next 27 years at least.
There is a John Richard Jones born to Richard and Ann baptized 17 March 1833 St Peter Worcestershire, could be another Richard and Ann Jones of course.
The name Bassett/Basset is an obvious link though either as mothers maiden name or grandmother's
Children found so far of Richard and Ann Jones at Polesworth
Baptisms
Eliza 7 July 1815
Urrum 5 July 1818 (female)
John Thomas(Thomson on some transcriptions) 24 October 1819 born 9 October 1819
Mary 14 May 1820 born 30 April 1820
Sarah Ann 26 December 1822
No further transcriptions found in Polesworth.
I noticed in other Jones families the name Urrum/Urum is continued.
I don't know what Richard's trade was but is it possible he moved to Worcestershire for a while?
What was Ann Bassett's mothers name and was her fathers name given in the marriage license/certificate.
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I need to look up my documents, but I know Richard was a farmer. Is it possible he was in Worceshire for that birth. I am sorry for misspellings I am an American. Thanks again for all the help