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Title: Smith look up please
Post by: tresario on Tuesday 27 June 17 05:29 BST (UK)
Please can you tell me how many kids Arabella Wyke 1755-1849 Shropshire and William Smith had please..I have one William 1791 who married Susannah Thompson1795 and they went on to have John in 1816, who married Sarah ? who had my great grandfather Samuel Smith Darlaston1848.
My DNA matches are pointing to Smith family that I don't have.
Have I gone wrong somewhere?
Many thanks for help.
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 27 June 17 08:19 BST (UK)
Go back to the last one you know about.
There isnt any samuel smith registered as b darlaston 1848.  (Walsall district)
There are a few in dudley. Mmn shaw, foster, stringer, elwell, (blank) and rickward.

Are there any other siblings to the 1848 samuel to narrow the mmn and look for his parents marriage?

The only samuel b 1848 i  can see before marriage has a mother called Jane?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7ZT-L63
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 27 June 17 08:31 BST (UK)
Or is your samuel the one who is 4y in 1851, so born before 1848?

Father b 1816 shifnal?
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: tresario on Tuesday 27 June 17 12:42 BST (UK)
Hello
I have Samuel Smith born in Darlaston who married Mary Ann Wootton. I have taken the dob from previous census and records. 
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: tresario on Tuesday 27 June 17 12:50 BST (UK)
I have Eliza William Susannah Thomas as siblings
In 1851 census I have parents John Smith a tailor by profession and Sarah...oh my not enough they are called Smith..2 families with same kids
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 June 17 13:25 BST (UK)
2 possibles for Susannah Smith age 2 in 1851 Census

SMITH, SUSANNA  Mothers mn   FAULKNER *****
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 17  Page 264
SMITH, SUSANNAH Mothers mn    GRICE****
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 17  Page 233

Looking at other Children 1851;

SMITH, THOMAS, Mothers mn GRICE ****
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 17  Page 247

SMITH, SAMUEL Mothers mn GRICE ****r
GRO Reference: 1847  J Quarter in WALSALL UNION  Volume 17  Page 243

ELIZA 1840 same Mothers mn GRICE
WILLIAM 1842 same Mothers mn GRICE

Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 June 17 13:30 BST (UK)
MARRIAGE;
18 February 1838,St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
John SMITH, Widowed**, Father WILLIAM Smith
Sarah GRICE, Single, Father SAMUEL Grice
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 June 17 13:53 BST (UK)
Have a look at this 1861 Census in Darlaston.

Jane Suerth, 47, Widow, Charwoman
Eliza Suerth, 20
William Suerth, 18
Samuel Suerth. 13
Thomas Suerth, 10
Sushannah Suerth. 11
George Atkins, 21
Image is SMITH***

1871 Census
Sarah Smith, 60
Thomas Smith, 21
Fanny Smith, 19, Daug in Law
Susannah Smith, 22
John Smith, 6
Rachael Durant, 22
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: tresario on Tuesday 27 June 17 13:57 BST (UK)
Thank you so Susannah grice..brilliant. so John Smith was a widow, but the kids were Susannah grices
Thank you so much you have really helped. Hopefully these DNA matches will make more sense. .They are saying Sidney and Thomas. Only one was a sibling for Samuel.
 
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 June 17 14:03 BST (UK)
1841 Census in Darlaston;
John Smith, 20, Tailor, NOT born in County
Sarah Smith, 25
Susannah Smith, 2
Eliza Smith, 7mths

1st Susannah must have died. Johns age is out though.
Nearby is a Robert Smith, 40, and Family, he is not born in Staffs also.

EDIT
GRO Index has a Death Reg for SUSANNA Smith 1843 Walsall age 4

1839 Birth Reg has her Mothers mn as GRICE
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 June 17 14:20 BST (UK)
Sarahs Bapt may be on FreeREG 1813 Wdnesbury, Staffs, Parents SAMUEL/MARY Grice
Fathers Occp Lock Filer
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: tresario on Tuesday 27 June 17 14:31 BST (UK)
Thanks  so  much.  Battery about to die. x I am back.

Thank you so much for all of the information you have provided. I am really grateful. You have been such a great help in my searches.

I am loath to lose Arabella Wyke. I have had many a laugh on how a posh girl called Arabella ended up marrying a man called Bill Smith.. ;D ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: Smith look up please
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 28 June 17 15:11 BST (UK)
Quote;
I am loath to lose Arabella Wyke. I have had many a laugh on how a posh girl called Arabella ended up marrying a man called Bill Smith


 ;D :) ;D

Glad I could help, Trish