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Title: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: GSearlym on Friday 30 June 17 20:36 BST (UK)
William James Flemming (b1872, d1936 in Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire), married Margaret Annie Impey Bates (b1871 Northall) in Aylesbury in 1891.  (Margaret, Annie, and Impey, are all given names; she and my father were second cousins).  William James and his and Margaret's youngest son, Leonard Eric, traveled back and forth to South Africa in the 1920s and 30s.  After William passed away in 1936, Leonard moved (in 1938) with his wife and children, a sister, and mother Margaret to South Africa.  They were Leonard Eric Flemming (b1906 Leighton Buzzard); his wife Beatrice Nellie Child (b 1907 Leighton Buzzard, probably married in South Africa); children Joan Margaret (b1929 Coventry, Warwickshire), Sylvia Alice (b1930 probably in South Africa), Gwendoline (b1933 probably in South Africa), and Hugh S. (b 1934 Leighton Buzzard); sister Dora Agnes Flemming (b 1904 Leighton Buzzard); and mother Margaret Annie Flemming.
One paid website for South African data indicates that they have death records for Dora Agnes, and for Hugh S. 
Any information on these Flemming family members in South Africa would be most welcome. 
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Thursday 06 July 17 10:29 BST (UK)
Hi GSearlym.

Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

If you are on facebook there is a group that could help you maybe.

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Thursday 06 July 17 10:40 BST (UK)
There is a passenger list for W.J, M.A, J.M, D.A in 1929 going from Southampton to South Africa.

Do you have it ?

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Thursday 06 July 17 10:53 BST (UK)
It looks as though the death for Dora needs to be ordered at the Masters Office.

6261   1979   Flemming   Beatrice Nellie   09-May-1979   p/s   Leonard Eric   7717/76       
4260   1984   Flemming   Dora Agnes   10-Jun-1984 

The link is here.
http://www.e-family.co.za/cdni/cdni_index.htm

Sandy         
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Thursday 06 July 17 11:46 BST (UK)
When you are next on GSearlym do you have the estate file for Margaret Annie Flemming ?

It mentions a son named Reginald Walter Flemming.

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: GSearlym on Friday 07 July 17 16:59 BST (UK)
Sandy,
Thank you so much for your help. Yes, I have the 1929 travel record but not the estate file. Can't find that one yet. The family went to SAfrica, back to England, and then back to SAfrica where it appears they stayed. I'll follow your leads in a few days when I return home.
Best, GSearlym
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: GSearlym on Saturday 05 August 17 21:11 BST (UK)
Sandy,
I've hunted pretty voraciously, but can't find the estate record you mentioned for Margaret Annie Impey Bates Flemming, with son Reginald Walter Flemming.  Can you point?  Thanks so much.
George
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Saturday 05 August 17 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi George.

Do you know when Margaret died.?

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: GSearlym on Saturday 05 August 17 22:39 BST (UK)
No, I don't. 
She departed in July of 1929 to South Africa with her husband, returned with Beatrice and Beatrice's children (Beatrice, wife of Leonard Eric) in Sep. of 1933; her husband died in England in 1936, and then she returned to Africa in April 1938 with Leonard Eric/Beatrice and family.  That's the last record I have for her. 
You mentioned Reginald Walter Flemming, son.  There are census records for him with the family, and with his wife etc.  It appears he stayed in England throughout all of this.
George
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Sunday 06 August 17 14:58 BST (UK)
I have to admit George I don't remember how I found the info I mentioned. I will have a scout around and see it I can find it again. Sorry.

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Sunday 06 August 17 15:17 BST (UK)
Well blow me down George I had saved it lol.
Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Sunday 06 August 17 15:26 BST (UK)
I was looking for her in Durban ? and she died in Pretoria 15th May 1949.

Sandy
Title: Re: Flemming Family from Bedfordshire relocating to South Africa
Post by: seahall on Sunday 06 August 17 15:51 BST (UK)
Okay here at last is the link George that another person kindly found it for me as I could not find it again.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3Q-6ZPS?cc=2520237&cat=188051

Don't forget to look further on the pages and you will see William's too.

Sandy