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Title: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Saturday 01 July 17 05:57 BST (UK)
I am searching for details of Daniel Weir born approx 1823 & probably Edinburgh area as he married Catharine Simpson 24/12/1840 at Edinburgh. I would like his birth details & names of his parents. He is my Great Great grandfather & son Cochrane came to NZ in 1848. Can anyone help please? Thank you
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: ev on Saturday 01 July 17 08:06 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Are you sure Daniel's wife was Catherine Simpson ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY9L-LXJ
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQCF-HJC



ev
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Saturday 01 July 17 09:32 BST (UK)
Oh no! Sorry! Daniel Weir married Catharine Graham - not Simpson
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: shanghaipanda on Sunday 02 July 17 19:01 BST (UK)
Have you seen/got this.  No idea of its authenticity.

https://peoplemyths.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/weirtree.pdf
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Sunday 02 July 17 21:12 BST (UK)
Quote from: shanghaipanda on Sunday 02 July 17 19:01 BST (UK)
Have you seen/got this.  No idea of its authenticity.

https://peoplemyths.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/weirtree.pdf

Gosh! That's amazing! Where did you find this? Definitely same family & I am focusing on Cochrane the eldest of Daniel who came to NZ at age 6 yrs. still some mysteries to solve but that's fantastic - thank you so much. And interesting that we go back to Ireland, like so many. Thank you
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Sunday 02 July 17 21:45 BST (UK)
Hi Shanghaipanda - I think Indidn't do my reply correctly. Thank you for sending that tree & it is definitely the same family with interesting detail. Still some mysteries for me to solve as I am linked to Cochrane, eldest son of Daniel Jnr & Catharine. Where did you find this? That's terrific!! Thanks!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: shanghaipanda on Monday 03 July 17 07:44 BST (UK)
Just google "daniel weir + cochrane".  As I suggested - you will need to double check the authenticity of the records as many family trees are found to be less than accurate !!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Monday 03 July 17 08:19 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for your help!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: anne_p on Monday 03 July 17 16:58 BST (UK)
Here is the family at 1841 and 1851
As son Daniel married in 1840, he does not appear on either of these returns with his parents and siblings.
Subsequent marriages for at least some of his siblings should be fairly easy to locate.

1841: Bells Mills, Edinburgh.

Cochran Weir   45 Ag Labourer b Ireland
Sarah Karron Weir   35  Ireland
Elizabeth Weir   25 B Ireland
James Weir   20 B Midlothian  ( all others b Midlothian)
Hugh Weir   15
Agnes Weir   13
Robert Weir   11
Joseph Weir   9
Andrew Weir   3

1851: Dean Path, Edinburgh
   
Name   Age
Cochrane Weir   59
Sarah Weir    60
Elizabeth Weir   34
Nancy Weir   24   ( Agnes Weir married James McKay in Aug 1851)
Robert Weir   22  ( Robert Married Isabella Young in Jul 1856. Last known child b 1865 but wife was remarried to Robert Anderson by 1871)
Joseph Weir   20  ( possibly  married Jessie Stewart in 1855)
Andrew Weir   13
Sarah Weir    3    Granddaughter B Midlothian


* Marriages of siblings Robert, Agnes and Joseph  show they had children named Cochrane and/ or Sarah Kerr
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Monday 03 July 17 19:27 BST (UK)
Gosh, thank you! I notice a discrepancy with Sarah's age between the two census. Is there any way I can check? Great info anyway. Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: anne_p on Monday 03 July 17 19:52 BST (UK)
the 1841 census rounded adult ages up/down to the nearest 5 so age will not be exact

1861: Dean Path, Edinburgh

Cochane Weir   66
Sarah Weir   66
Sarah Weir   13
Sarah Weir   4

Her death of 1870 shows she was 74yrs at ime of death so her age is fluctuating with every record
Scottish deaths are indexed under both married and maiden names
WEIR
SARAH
74
1870
685/1 600 **
St George

KERR
SARAH
74
1870
685/1 600 **
St George
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Monday 03 July 17 21:02 BST (UK)
Ok. Appreciate your help!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 04 July 17 08:23 BST (UK)
Hayjood, if you get those death certificates for Cochrane Weir and Sarah Kerr they should tell you the names of their parents, including their mothers' maiden surnames, and assuming of course that whoever registered the deaths knew that information. Go to www.scotlandpeople.gov.uk for this. It will cost you about the same as a cup of coffee to view each document.

I don't like the way that tree is set out with all the sons together and then all the daughters afterwards. It means that you don't know their order of birth, and therefore you can't make an informed guess about the names of their parents.

Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Tuesday 04 July 17 08:32 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help Forfarian. Which Tree are you referring to? I definitely like to put all family members in age/birth order. very messy otherwise. thanks!
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 04 July 17 08:56 BST (UK)
Quote from: Hayjood on Tuesday 04 July 17 08:32 BST (UK)
Which Tree are you referring to?
The Weir one that shanghaipanda found.
Title: Re: Weir, Daniel
Post by: Hayjood on Tuesday 04 July 17 10:41 BST (UK)
Yes, I am double checking birth dates but this was certainly a big help & lots of detail. Thanks for your interest!