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Hello,
I cannot be certain that Wharmby was Sarah's maiden name. Could somebody help me, please?
Here is what I am certain of :
William Simpson born in New Mills 29 April 1838, married Sarah Wharmby in 1872 in New Mills, he died 15 october 1915 in New Mills, is interred in St George Cemetery in New Mills tumb nb 6 with his wife Sarah , 2 daughters , and in laws.
On FreeBMD someone put a postem saying Wharmby was the name of her former husband John Wharmby , her maiden name being DOVE.
But ,still on FreeBMD I found 2 marriages of a John Wharmby and interesting Sarahs :
John Wharmby and Sarah DOVE quarter june 1861 Mansfield (Nottinghamshire)
and John Wharmby (father : John) and Sarah WHARMBY (same surname)(her father :George) 26 september 1869 Stockport .
This couple living in Stayley Lancashire/Cheshire in 1871 just having had a child Joseph (Census 1871).
William and Sarah were methodists.
Can somebody have a look at the marriage certificate to see if there is extra info (name of the fathers, witnesses...)? Or any idea ?
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I don't have access to any of the PRs but doesn't this look like Sarah in 1871?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB6B-HKX
The 8 year old niece Elizabeth shows up on the 1881 as a step-daughter to the SIMPSONs. (I think.)
Maureen
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WHARMBY, ELIZABETH, no Mothers mn*****
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in HAYFIELD Volume 07B Page 620
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1851 Census
James Wharmby 39
Ann Wharmby 38
Elizabeth Wharmby 10
SARAH Wharmby 9*****
Ann Wharmby 7
Martha Wharmby 5
John Wharmby 3
Hannah Wharmby 1
William Thomas 59
James Wharmby 73
1861 Sarah is mistakenly down as James Wife on Anc;
James Wharmby 48, Widower
Sarah Wharmby 19, Daug******
Ann Wharmby 17
Martha Wharmby 16
John Wharmby 14
Hannah Wharmby 12
Ellen Wharmby 7
James Wharmby 5
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It appears to me that Sarah was never married before she married William Simpson.
She is unm in 1871 Census that Maureen found and the ones I added confirm siblings.
SIMPSON, ELLEN ANN, Mothers mn WHARMBY***
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in HAYFIELD Volume 07B Page 748
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Going back further;
WHARMBY, ELLEN, Mothers mn WARHURST***
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in HAYFIELD AND GLOSSOP Volume 07B Page 53
WHARMBY, MARTHA, Mothers mn WARHURST****
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in HAYFIELD & GLOSSOP Volume 19 Page 530
WHARMBY, ELIZABETH, Mothers mn WARHURST***
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in HAYFIELD AND GLOSSOP Volume 19 Page 493
Marriage;
21 May 1839, St Mary, Stockport, Cheshire, England
James WHARMBY, Father JAMES to Ann WARHURST, Father JOHN
Both of full age
(Source Familysearch.Org)
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:) :)
All looks good to me,Trish!
As regards the Postem to the marriage-the Sarah DOVE/John WHARMBY couple are still quite married in 1881 in Mansfield.
Birth of one of their children:
WHARMBY, LUTHER TYNDALE mmn DOVE
1865 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 56
Maureen
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Thanks Maureen, good work on your part finding Sarah 1871.
This I am sure is the 1841 Census in Derbyshire from Familysearch.Org.(cant find it on Anc!)
James Wharmby M 60-64 Derbyshire
James Wharmby M 30-34 Derbyshire
Ann Wharmby F 25-29 Derbyshire
Thomas Wharmby M 20-24 Derbyshire
Elizabeth Wharmby F 0 Derbyshire
William Thomas M 45-49 Derbyshire
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Hi,
Thank you very much for all this .
I agree That the Sarah you found isi William's wife.
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Thanks Maureen, good work on your part finding Sarah 1871.
This I am sure is the 1841 Census in Derbyshire from Familysearch.Org.(cant find it on Anc!)
James Wharmby M 60-64 Derbyshire
James Wharmby M 30-34 Derbyshire
Ann Wharmby F 25-29 Derbyshire
Thomas Wharmby M 20-24 Derbyshire
Elizabeth Wharmby F 0 Derbyshire
William Thomas M 45-49 Derbyshire
HO107/185 bk16 f24 p4
Ancestry have the family transcribed as Thursby and the elder James as Samuel
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Thanks rosie :)