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Title: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Tuesday 04 July 17 22:34 BST (UK)
Don't know whether anyone can help without me applying for birth certificates.

I am looking for Nora Patricia Gough who was first married in June 1940 in Liverpool to Maurice Ramsey Kenny vol 8b p294.

Nora then married Matthew Pye in Bourne Lincolnshire in 1956 vol 3b p200

I am trying to find out where and when Nora was born. Her name may have been Norah. Does anyone have any suggestions or information.

Thanks

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 04 July 17 22:47 BST (UK)
FreeBMD is showing a possibility:

December qtr 1912
Birmingham Registratiom District     vol 6d, page 281

Gough, Nora P      Mother's maiden name: Gossage
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 04 July 17 22:52 BST (UK)
Hello,

Did she die in Kingston upon Thames in 1990? That death gives a birth year of 1918.

My suggestion would be to purchase a marriage certificate for her father's name.

Heywood
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Tuesday 04 July 17 23:18 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood..

Yes she did die in 1990 in Kingston so that takes me one step further.  I do think she was born in Liverpool but thank you both for replying.

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: Comberton on Tuesday 04 July 17 23:34 BST (UK)
1939 Register has
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Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 05 July 17 19:14 BST (UK)
She was born on 20th APRIL 1918 according to familysearch


Name     Nora Patricia Pye   
 Event Type     Death Registration   
 Registration Quarter     Jul-Aug-Sep   
 Registration Year     1990   
 Registration District     Kingston Upon Thames   
 County     Surrey   
 Event Place     Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England   
 Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969)     20 Apr 1918   
 Volume     13   
 Page     1688 
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There is no Nora Patricia Gough born in England for that period of 1918 - where did you get the surname Gough ?? could she have married a Gough before she married Maurice ??
very strange - Maurice R Kenny b 1916 Liverpool mmn Williams - is there
but no Nora Patricia Gough ....
marriage was in Liverpool North - do you have a church name for the marriage in North Liverpool?
did Maurice also re marry in 1956 to Olive Palmer in West Bromwich
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: lancsann on Thursday 06 July 17 11:30 BST (UK)
did she have a son and a daughter born in Liverpool
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Thursday 06 July 17 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi LancsAnn

Yes a daughter Barbara and son David....any luck?

Thanks

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: lancsann on Thursday 06 July 17 21:32 BST (UK)
So their birth registrations confirm that the mothers maiden name was Gough
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 06 July 17 22:01 BST (UK)
Perhaps a wild suggestion;Could she be an adoptee?

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: heywood on Thursday 06 July 17 22:07 BST (UK)
If she was married twice, there are two marriage certificates which hopefully would give her father's name and occupation. It would be worth a try.
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Friday 07 July 17 08:38 BST (UK)
Hi heywood


We have applied for marriage certificates. We are hoping it will show her father's name and confirm her age.

Thanks

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: lancsann on Friday 07 July 17 08:47 BST (UK)
Do let us know when you have them
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: heywood on Friday 07 July 17 09:11 BST (UK)
Quote from: mulberryhouse40 on Friday 07 July 17 08:38 BST (UK)
Hi heywood


We have applied for marriage certificates. We are hoping it will show her father's name and confirm her age.

Thanks

Gill

Good luck Gill. I hope you get some useful information. It is better than guessing  :)
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Friday 07 July 17 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi heywood

There is a possibility that she may have been adopted or brought up by someone else and taken their name....unfortunately no part of that family exist to look in to this. Hoping the marriage certificate will push us forward

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Tuesday 08 May 18 08:24 BST (UK)
Hi

We have a marriage certificate which states that she was married at Liverpool south registry office. However it only gives the names of the witnesses as JI Ashton and AL Kenny also that she was 24 in 1940, confirming date of birth at 1916 on 1939 register.

thanks

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 May 18 08:33 BST (UK)
Hello Gill,

Presumably no father’s name?

Heywood
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Tuesday 08 May 18 12:18 BST (UK)
Unfirtunately not. I think she must have been adopted. Is there anywhere that you can trace adoption records when you haven’t got much to go on..

Regards

Gill
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: lancsann on Tuesday 08 May 18 13:36 BST (UK)
there were no official adoption records until 1927, before that it would be by informal agreement or via a solicitor
Title: Re: Nora Patricia gough
Post by: mulberryhouse40 on Tuesday 08 May 18 13:55 BST (UK)
Thank you for  that information. Maybe someday I will crack the puzzle.