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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: amac1210 on Monday 10 July 17 01:03 BST (UK)
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Hello All,
I've been researching my Great-Great Uncle Charles Gallagher. He was born on the 25 June 1904 in Glasgow, Scotland to parents Eugene/Owen Gallagher and Teresa O'Connor. He emigrated to the United States in 1928. By 1940, from the census records, it is clear he is married to a woman named Mary Sullivan who was born c. 1908 in Connecticut. Her mother was Anna Sullivan who lived with them too at this census. It appears from Social Security records that Charles died in April 1968 in New Jersey. From Cemetery records, there is a "Charles P Gallagher" buried in New Jersey who died or was interred 04 April 1968.
I'm interested to confirm Charles' death date, and especially to know what children he and Mary may have had and when Mary herself passed away.
Any help much appreciated,
Tony
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The Charles Gallagher who died in New Jersey 1968 was married to Emily McIntyre, and he came from Donegal Ireland.
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The DOB given is for the one born Ireland
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1930 census Harrison, Hudson County New Jersey
Charles Gallagher 25 born Scotland (1905) immigrated 1928 he works at a Radio Tube Factory driving a truck, he is boarding with Thomas Fallon and his wife Gertrude also born Scotland.
Did he have a sister Gertrude who married a Fallon.
The 1940 census I saw was Charles Gallagher and wife Mary in New York and he is an elevator operator born 1902 Scotland. No mother in law with them. I'll keep looking
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Have you found him on a passenger list in 1928 or is this family heresay ???
Where and what year did he marry Mary Sullivan ???
Where is he in 1940 ???
Sandra
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To help others.
1930 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X46F-FR3
1940 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K452-X9W
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Hello All,
RJ137 just posted the two censuses I was meaning - thanks. That's where my info on Mary is coming from really. As to his death in New Jersey there seems to have been more than one Charles Gallagher who died in that year and place. I don't have the source to hand, but I remember finding through Social Security a Charles Gallagher who died April 1968 with the DOB 25 June 1904 which is exactly the same DOB I've got for my Charles Gallagher.
The Cemetery got back to me and says there is no trace of a Mary Sullivan/Gallagher buried there which makes me doubt he is buried there too.
Cheers,
Tony
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The Sullivan family.
It appears they were in Belleville from 1920 on, so I assume this is where Mary & Charles Gallagher married, since that is where eveyone appears in the 1940 census. Also Mary's father Patrick died between 1920 -1930 probably in Belleville since that is where the family was living in 1920/1930.
1920 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M45D-1ZC
1930 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4D4-X44
1940 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K452-X93
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Belleville city directories:
1940 & 1942
Gallagher, Charles (Mary H) utilityman, resides 130 Stephens
Gallagher, Mrs. Mary H., stenographer, resides 130 Stephens
1944
Gallagher, Charles (Mary H) mechanic, home 134 Washington Av.
Gallagher, Mrs. Mary H., stenographer, resides 130 Stephens
1946
Gallagher, Charles (Mary) millwright Bloomfield, home 57 Cortlandt
Gallagher, Mrs. Mary H., stenographer, resides 130 Stephens
The 1950 directory still has the entry for Mrs. Mary H. Gallagher, but nothing for Charles. It's possible that they just forgot to remove the entry for Mary, or they may have been separated.
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1940 Belleville city directory
Sullivan, Anna T., resides 130 Stephens
Sullivan, Anna T. (widow of Patrick), home 130 Stephens
Sullivan, James F., plumber, resides 130 Stephens
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The DOB's all seem to be in line with what is known as well as location. Are these the SSDI records for Charles, Mary & Mary's brother James F. ?
Charles -S SDI: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBT7-6Q3
Mary - SSDI: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JR7W-CMH
James F. -SSDI: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBTW-Q3X
James F. - F.A.G.: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=90624939
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Did you get his birth date from his birth certificate? If not then its unreliable.
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Thanks for all the info. Yes I got the DOB from his birth certificate. He was born on 15 Corn Street, Glasgow. Anyway, I'm curious how to find any children he had?
Mary's death looks about right. To confirm I guess we'd need her Birth Certificate or Birth Record showing that DOB of 16 July 1907? It would be in Connecticut.
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I don't think there's anything comprehensive online for Connecticut birth records from that time frame.
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I suppose then it would have to be a case of digging out Mary's death record somehow. What about kids? Do you think they may have not had any? I noticed Charles' address was different from the mid 1940s onwards. I wonder if that was work related or if they were just separated?
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The city directories typically only list adults. You would probably need to find an obituary for one of them to see if there were any children.
If they died in New Jersey, there is information about ordering a death certificate and the fees involved here - http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/order-vital/non-genealogical-records/
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Lol transcribed as Sullagher in 1940 on the ancestry site - alternative surname was given today so doesn't show yet. ;)
Sandra
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I know this thread is old. I was coming back to whether he had any children, and where I might find local newspaper records concerning that? I suspect he didn't but we can't be sure. Mary Sullivan seems to have died November 1980, which might be a place to start.
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A few years later now, there is a New Jersey death index online, which has a death for Mary M. Gallagher, age 73, on 23 Nov 1980 in East Orange, Essex Co. The Social Security number matches the one on the Social Security death index who was born 16 Jul 1907.
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A few years later now, there is a New Jersey death index online, which has a death for Mary M. Gallagher, age 73, on 23 Nov 1980 in East Orange, Essex Co. The Social Security number matches the one on the Social Security death index who was born 16 Jul 1907.
Newark Star-Ledger
Newark, New Jersey
November 25, 1980
Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oxa/
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There is also now a WWII draft registration card online for Charles Joseph Gallagher, 105 Cortlandt St., Belleville, New Jersey, age 37, born 26 Jun. 1904 in Scotland. The person who would always know his address was Mary Gallagher at the same address. His employer was Newark Central Warehouse Co., 110 Edison Pl., Newark, NJ. He was white, 5'8" tall, 145 lbs., blue eyes, blonde hair, light complexion. Date of registration was 15 Feb. 1942.
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The New Jersey death index has 2 Charles Gallaghers who died in 1968. https://archive.org/details/NJ_Death_Index_1968_A-G/page/n272 Using the vital records codes from here - http://www.bringoutyerdead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NJ-Vital-Records-Codes.pdf - they were:
Charles J. Gallagher, died in the Veterans Hospital in East Orange on 4 Feb. 1968, and place of residence was North Bergen Township, Hudson Co., NJ.
Charles P. Gallagher, died 25 Mar. 1968 in Newark and place of residence Newark.
I'm guessing the latter is the right one, even though the middle initial doesn't match the draft registration card. That date of death would probably fit with the April burial with this Charles. https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/100193/rosedale-and-rosehill-cemetery The Rosedale cemetery's website gives 4 Apr. as the date of burial. https://rosedale-rosehill.com/name-lookup/search-results/ Also, the zip code of last residence on the SSDI for the Charles with the 25 Jun 1904 birthdate fits with Newark.
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Thank you so much for that information. I wonder about those middle names. His birth record has none, I wonder if one was a Confirmation name received in Church? Why the difference between P. and Joseph also? I already checked out Rosedale, they told me Charles P. Gallagher lies without a headstone. Might be good to double check to be sure of that. I also wonder about the divergence of dates regarding 25th June and 26th June for Charles J. Gallagher? The physical description is a little odd, the only black and white photograph we have of him shows dark hair, but perhaps that's the camera? I think the next step might be to verify that niece mentioned on Mary Gallagher's obituary, and take it from there. She could even still be living, and might have information on the family. Though I do notice on the obituary that she is listed as "Mary Margaret". Again why the middle name appearing from nowhere? On those directories posted earlier in the thread, it's "Mary H." which further complicates it.
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Looks like I found an obituary for the niece - https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=colette-conroy&pid=171331212&fhid=5499. It mentions she was in New Rochelle which matches with the Colette Conroy on the obituary. I wonder which of Mary Gallagher's siblings married into the Conroys? That would verify some links.
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My husband's grandmother is called Mary Ann by lots of people, but she's technically Mary Margaret. :) Sometimes the obituary or death certificate is just what the survivors think, rather than actual fact.
Considering that common names are involved, you could check Scotland's People to see if there was another Charles Gallagher born 25 or 26 June 1904 anywhere in the country, but I wouldn't be surprised if your Charles was just confused about the correct date.
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I checked out Mary Margaret's obituary again, it says she had a sister named Ellen Gillen of Orange. I haven't found her, and she wasn't on those census records mentioned here in the thread, which is strange. As to Colette Conroy, I also can't see anything obvious linking her to the family.
I might have asked before, how can I get Charles' death certificate? Thanks!
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https://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/order-vital/genealogical-records/
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I think I have got these relationships figured out?
Collette M Conroy was the daughter of Howard J Conroy & Collette Gallagher.
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K45L-PNC
Mary Margaret Gallagher, Collette (Gallagher) Conroy & Edith (Gallagher) Gillen were all daughters of John F & Emma Gallagher. Edith married James Gillen.
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Edith & Mary in 1930-listed as nieces
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4R4-3JN
Edith & Mary in 1940-listed as nieces
1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X46Q-MYB
Edith, Mary & Collette in 1920-listed as nieces
1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4RC-BC5
Edith, Mary & Collette with parents in 1910.
1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKYQ-N8X
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Edith Gillen
Newark Star-Ledger
Newark, New Jersey
October 2, 1987
Death notice: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oxj/
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Right, now this is very confusing! I think this means Mary Margaret Gallagher is not Charles Gallagher's wife after all. Charles was married to Mary Sullivan, seen as "Mary H." as stated earlier in the thread. So I'm now pretty confused about when she actually died. I thought it was 1980, maybe I've been wrong. But how do we address this:
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A few years later now, there is a New Jersey death index online, which has a death for Mary M. Gallagher, age 73, on 23 Nov 1980 in East Orange, Essex Co. The Social Security number matches the one on the Social Security death index who was born 16 Jul 1907.
Have I the wrong date of birth as well? Also, having no obituary for Mary Sullivan (or Gallagher) means she may indeed have had children. Any way that I can find those children, if they existed? Thanks!
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All I can find on Mary Sullivan right now -
1910 United States Federal Census
Birth: Circa 1908 - Connecticut, United States
Residence: 1910 - Stonington, New London, Connecticut, USA
Parents: Patrick Sullivan, Hannah Sullivan
Siblings: James Sullivan, Annie Sullivan
Curiously my family file had Mary Sullivan's death at Nov 1st 1980? Perhaps a mistake, but it might be the real match.