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Title: Diana Griffiths
Post by: mike44 on Wednesday 12 July 17 10:49 BST (UK)
Looking for help in finding a record of the birth of Diana Griffiths.
In 1845 she married Thomas Bowles in Norwich, her father's name was David Griffiths (soldier).
On 1851 census her birth was 1809 Gibraltar. Any help would be much appreciated.
Mike
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: Yorkslass on Wednesday 12 July 17 13:35 BST (UK)
This is a strange one.

Saw on the 1851 census that Diana had an 18 year old son, Thomas, born Norwich.

She must have been married previously - does it indicate widow on the marriage certificate?

Yorkslass
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: Yorkslass on Wednesday 12 July 17 13:44 BST (UK)
This looks like the baptism of the Thomas I mentioned earlier
November 14 1832.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kdy/

He's a Thomas "Balls" Griffiths .... could this be "Bowles"?

Yorkslass




Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: mike44 on Wednesday 12 July 17 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Yorkslass
No on the marriage cert it has Thomas Bowles Widower Diana Griffths Spinster.
Residence at time of marriage both at Weeds Buildings Norwich. (strange)
Mike
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 12 July 17 16:02 BST (UK)
1841 Diana is listed as being Diana Bowles at St Andrews Thorpe.
Thomas Bowles 50  "P "  might be pensioner
Diana 30
Thomas 9
John 5
Lydia 1
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 12 July 17 16:05 BST (UK)
Daughter Lydia baptized at St Helens to Thomas and Diana Bowles, labourer 5 June 1840
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 12 July 17 16:16 BST (UK)
Family search, does not give church just Norwich
John Bowles Griffiths bap 5 February 1837 mother Diana Griffiths
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 12 July 17 16:23 BST (UK)
Jn. Bowles Griffiths
Birth Date   23 Nov 1836
Christening Date   05 Feb 1837
Mother's Name   Diana Griffiths
Christening Place   SAINT MARTIN AT PALACE,NORWICH,NORFOLK



Residence at time of marriage both at Weeds Buildings Norwich. (strange)


The same address was sometimes given by both parties possibly so that the banns only needed to be called in one parish
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: jonw65 on Wednesday 12 July 17 16:37 BST (UK)
Daughter Lydia baptized at St Helens to Thomas and Diana Bowles, labourer 5 June 1840

There's a marriage of a David Griffiths to Lydia W......? (can't read her name)
11 April 1805, Norwich St Saviour
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: mike44 on Wednesday 12 July 17 17:28 BST (UK)
Thank you all for info sofar.
Look like Thomas Bowles and Diana were living together before 1845.
In 1843 they had a son David Griffiths Bowles then in 1846 they had Mary Ann Bowles and had droped the Griffiths.
Diana's father was in the army and look like he was stationed in Gibraltar, are there any records for births families serving abroad.
Mike
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 12 July 17 17:31 BST (UK)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: amondg on Thursday 13 July 17 07:50 BST (UK)
You may have to do a little military reading and find out which regiment was stationed in Norwich 1805 for David Griffiths to marry Lydia (Wicker looks like in banns register) and Gibraltar in 1809 for the birth of Diana.
With the surname Griffiths David was probably Welsh so his military file will be essential to go back further.
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: shazzi_b on Saturday 23 February 19 12:53 GMT (UK)
No problem, next time I’m in the area i’ll have a look.
Title: Re: Diana Griffiths
Post by: mike44 on Saturday 23 February 19 14:03 GMT (UK)
shazzi_b
Thank You
Mike