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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales Resources => Topic started by: paslwigr on Saturday 15 July 17 14:03 BST (UK)
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I found the marriage of James Wootton to either Jane Smith or Ellin Roberts in the above quarter. I have checked the Bangor Parish Marriage register and can't find it there. Please could anyone find out where in Bangor James Wootton married and to which girl. I can't locate them after this marriage anywhere.
Thanks paslwigr
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Where dd you find the marriage, I can't see it on Freebmd?
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From North Wales BMD
1859
WOOTTON James
SMITH Jane
Caernarfon - Civil Marriage Gwynedd (Caernarfon) CAE/03/E65
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Could they be at RG9 /4327 f14 p21
Lewis Owen 67
Gaynor Owen 42
James Wooton Visitor 34 Master Mariner Merchant Service
Jane Wooton 20 Boot Binder bn Sandwich, Kent
others bn Carnarvonshire -Llanebellig (?) LLanbeblig maybe
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in 1871 the p.o.b.'s are reversed!!!
1871
67 Chapel St Portmadoc
James Wootton Head M 46 Mariner Sandwich Kent
Jane wife 37 Carnarvon
Maria W Keppie Boarder 4 Glasgow Scotland
Gorgina F Keppie boarder 2 Liverpool Lancs
RG10 5700 115 40
Suz
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Thankyou Rosie99 thats it, he married Jane Smith.
It cant be him a master mariner, he was just over 19 years old when he married. Born June 1840 in Pitstone Buckingham shire. He was born James Paradine illegitimately to Harriet. In 1848 he was rebaptised 'Wootton' by his mother's common law husband John Wootton, at Bangor Parish Church.
To groom, it must have been the Free BMD, I think.
To suzard James Wooton only aged 31 in 1871.
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it would have been good to post his d.o.b.and p.o.b. in your first post
Did they have any children which may help locate them later?
Suz
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Where dd you find the marriage, I can't see it on Freebmd?
From freebmd
Marriages Dec 1859
Hughes John
Roberts Ellin
Smith Jane
Wootton James
Carnarvon 11b 933
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Yes sorry, I think that was my fault I couldn't find it as I had an "e" in Wootton and was looking under Bangor! ;D ;D
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1851 Bangor H0107/2518 f186 page 28
John Wootton 61 bn Shrewsbury
Harriet Wootton 29 bn Pitstone
James Wootton 11 bn Pitstone
Christan Wootton 3 Mths bn Bangor
Helen Hughes 16
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Sorry suzard, I should have written more detail. I haven't found any children. In fact I can't find them in the censuses in Britain or USA so far.
Thankyou rosie99, that's the family in 1851.
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Probably John's death
WOOTTON, JOHN age 65
1855 March Quarter in BANGOR Volume 11B Page 469
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Thankyou Rosie99 thats it, he married Jane Smith.
I don't think that 1859 marriage is your James Wootton :-\
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Deaths Mar qtr 1852
Wooton Christiana
Bangor 11b 366
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There is a Paradine family on the 1841 Census at Pitstone, Buckinghamshire, possible Harriets.
William Paradine age 60 born 1871
Anna age 60 born 1781
Anna age 20 born 1821
Harriet age 15 born 1826
Matilda age 2 born 1839
James age 1 born 1840
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Yes rosie99 that's the John who was James' stepfather. Little Christiana was named for John Wootton's sister, but sadly she died aged 13 months. Recorded in Bangor Parish registers.
Thanks Ellenmai, that's James Paradine aged 1 year when he lived in Pitstone. I have done that side of the family.
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Do you know who James Wootton married and what happened to his mother after John's death
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Thanks Rosie99 for all your info. I have just given myself a shock. You ask what happened to James' mother after John Wootton died. Well, she married William Griffiths 29th December 1856 at St Chad's Parish Shrewsbury, declaring herself to be a spinster Harriet Paradine. I just found her marriage to John Wootton in 1845 at St John's Parish in Great Boughton, I must not have looked for it. I believe James Wootton married a Jane Smith in a civil marriage in Bangor. I've lost them after that. Unless of course the plot thickens and it was another James Wootton!
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I had wondered if it was her married to William Griffith. I am concerned that the Bangor marriage to Jane Smith is the one I found married to a mariner, the only way to disprove that is by getting the certificate. I did wonder whether James returned to calling himself Paradine
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There is something not quite right about the location of the 1859 Marriage between James Wootton & Jane Smith, the marriage index states it was registered Caernarvon, Caernarvonshire not Bangor Caernarvonshire, there is about 9 miles distance between the two.
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yes, I've been wondering that myself, whether I jumped on that marriage to Jane Smith too quickly. I have looked for a James Paradine of the correct age in the British & American censuses without luck, just in case he did change his name back. I think it's back to the drawing board with James, perhaps he died young. I need a time machine. William Griffiths was my husband's great grandfather. Thanks for all your help.
Thanks Ellenmai I'm rethinking that marriage.