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Post by: patcan2 on Wednesday 19 July 17 13:10 BST (UK)
looking for railway workers list any ideas please
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Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 19 July 17 13:31 BST (UK)
Have a look at this list of records from the National Archives, it gives details of what archives are held from the company and where they are.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F173181
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Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 19 July 17 13:33 BST (UK)
Ancestry have some Railway records:

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956
The collection features selected records from the following companies:
RAIL397: London and North Eastern Railway Company
(and others)


However piece no 13 is missing.


When I tried to look for my G-Grandfather's records, I found it more cost-effective to employ a specialised Railway researcher.
I live on the Isle of Man, and would have to pay for transport and accommodation if I went to Kew!
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Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 19 July 17 19:08 BST (UK)
Try Doncaster archive and look for the record of the GNR Sick and Friendly Society.
From 1923 when the LNER was formed membership was opened to staff on all parts of the new company.As there was no sick pay it was in effect a staff register as virtually all joined it.
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Post by: Mean_genie on Wednesday 19 July 17 21:01 BST (UK)
Findmypast has some trade union records from the Modern Records Centre at the University of Warwick, and they include some for rail unions:

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/britain-trade-union-membership-registers
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Post by: Redroger on Thursday 20 July 17 18:40 BST (UK)
A potential problem with rail union records, specially NUR who represented bus workers where the bus company had been one by a railway company.
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Post by: patcan2 on Friday 21 July 17 07:10 BST (UK)
thank you all for your replies I will chase them up

pat
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Post by: Skoosh on Friday 21 July 17 09:03 BST (UK)
LNER took over the North British Railway Company, might be relevant?

Skoosh.
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Post by: Redroger on Friday 21 July 17 11:57 BST (UK)
A potential problem with rail union records, specially NUR who represented bus workers where the bus company had been one by a railway company.
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Companies involved: Lincolnshire Road Car, Yorkshire Traction, United. These are just those I have had
involvement with. Basically to fight competition from road transport during the 1920s and 1930s most if not all the mainline railways bought interests (at a minimum) in many regional bus operations. Embryonic integration of passenger transport?
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Post by: jbml on Wednesday 25 July 18 22:43 BST (UK)
LNER took over the North British Railway Company, might be relevant?

Skoosh.

Or, more specifically, the LNER was the new company into which the following railways were grouped in 1923:

Great Northern
Great Eastern
Great Central
Great North of Scotland
North British
North Eastern
Hull & Barnsley (actually merged with the North Eastern in 1922)

and a variety of other minor railway companies; but these were the principal ones.
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Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 26 July 18 06:31 BST (UK)
Brought up in a railway family & thought LMS was the family monogram!  ;D

Skoosh.
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Post by: Mvann on Thursday 26 July 18 09:36 BST (UK)
I think there are some railway staff records at the national railway museum.
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Post by: Redroger on Thursday 26 July 18 09:52 BST (UK)
Most of the companies omitted from the list are "joint"'companies eg M&GN ran from Nottingham/Peterborough to North Norfolk joint company Great Northern &Midland railways to compete with the Great Eastern in East Anglia, while simultaneously a GN&GEjoint line ran from March (Cambs) to Doncaster via Lincoln to compete with the Midland. This pattern was repeated nationwide, it was a jungle. There are no significant LNER staff records at TNA.
The LNER in common with most companies did not give sick pay, however they ran the Great Northern Loco Friendly Society which on merger day membership was opened to all staff in the new company.
It is effectively a census and it's records are held in Doncaster borough archive.
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Post by: kooky on Thursday 26 July 18 15:55 BST (UK)
I am finding this thread interesting.
My gt gr father worked as a clerk in Glasgow from 1874 until about 1910.
I have never been able to find any mention of him anywhere!  ::)
Has anybody any suggestions?
There is a thread on here somewhere.
He was Henry Kane b. 1850 ish near Armagh.
Kooky
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Post by: Redroger on Thursday 26 July 18 16:47 BST (UK)
Caledonian railway.
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Post by: jbml on Thursday 26 July 18 17:58 BST (UK)
Most probably either Caledonian or Glasgow & South Western. Both became part of the LMS, and so their records will have gone to Derby where they were destroyed by fire in 1950.
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Post by: kooky on Friday 27 July 18 06:44 BST (UK)
Thank you both.
That's that then! :(
Kooky
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Post by: Redroger on Saturday 28 July 18 22:44 BST (UK)
Not quite. Look for other records of the companies of a similar type (sick funds etc) to those I referred to for the GN sick fund. There may be similar records to those in a Scottish archive in the Glasgow area. Never give up.
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Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 29 July 18 10:24 BST (UK)
Kooky, have you thought of trying the Glasgow Poor Law records at the Mitchell Library, a mine of information if your man, or his family, ever applied for relief & most folk did! Mostly destroyed elsewhere in Scotland, Glasgow's are kept in storage & after searching the index the ledgers are brought to your desk on a wheelbarrow!  ;D

 I found a claim by my grandmother, my grandfather was a hammerman in the Caley, Springburn, but took pleurisy & was off work, he received money from a railway scheme for so many weeks then she applied to the "Parish!" That was the Caledonian Railway Works, later the LMS.

Springburn also had Cowlairs, the North British Railway Works, later the LNER, & other works including the NB Loco, the North British Locomotive Works, which made engines for export.


My grannie was awarded a few shillings after a visit from the inspector who wrote in the notes that he will try to recover this money from his father!  ;D  Try the Mitchell!

Skoosh.
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Post by: kooky on Sunday 29 July 18 14:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Skoosh!
I will look into it.
Kooky