I enjoyed watching, her g grandmother's older brother was Oliver Stanley who owned Witherslack Hall. My g grandfather & grandfather trained and rode several of the family's horses. Tenuous link but I'm hanging on to it! Interestingly, Olivers' wife turned down two offers of marriage from Edward VII, before he succeeded, apparently she considered him a wimp :)
John of Gaunt being the son of Edward III was disputed at the time & now apparently!
Skoosh.
John of Gaunt being the son of Edward III was disputed at the time & now apparently!
Skoosh.
Google!
Google!
Not overly helpful.
Google!
Not overly helpful.
Wikipedia any better?
When he became unpopular later in life, scurrilous rumours and lampoons circulated that he was actually the son of a Ghent butcher, perhaps because Edward III was not present at the birth. This story always drove him to fury.[2]
[2] Jonathan Sumption, Divided Houses: The Hundred Years War III (London: Faber & Faber, 2009), p. 274.
.... perhaps because Edward III was not present at the birth.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
.... perhaps because Edward III was not present at the birth.
Given that for paternity, it's more important to be there at the conception rather than birth, as rumours go (about Edward not being John's father) this seems badly conceived - see what I did there?
Have to agree with most comments re that episode.
Half the programme spent trying to find a "Gay" link in her family! It is "Gay Season" on BBC after all.
Too little of the rest of the programme spent researching her mother's family.
Very disappointed.
Have to agree with most comments re that episode.
Half the programme spent trying to find a "Gay" link in her family! It is "Gay Season" on BBC after all.
Perhaps it's time, than rather than using celebrities, that they asked for the General Public who had found interesting people in their family to share their findings. They could still show the records and how they were found. I'm sure there are some really interesting stories out there which are far better than the "forced" celebrity ones.
interesting peopleare in the eye of the beholder.
Quoteinteresting peopleare in the eye of the beholder.
I have interesting people that would probably make everyone else yawn.
Quoteinteresting peopleare in the eye of the beholder.
I have interesting people that would probably make everyone else yawn.
Exactly, but just because someone is a celebrity it doesn't make their ancestors anymore interesting.
I'm trying to work out my link to them... I have so many tiny pieces of the jigsaw that indicate in my imagination that I must have a link somewhere... even though I know it'd be some errant youngest son who left in disgrace, or some floozy of a daughter who had an illegitimate son .... but there are so many fragments that just geographically "fit" for me .... but I doubt I'll live long enough to ever know :)
I am assuming, from Claire's throw away opening comments, that she is descended from the 1st Earl of Derby, being Thomas, Lord Stanley of Bosworth Field infamy.
Thomas Stanley was the third husband of Lady Margaret Beaufort mother of Henry Vll.
We all know she has a 'wife' but do we need it pushed down our throats!
We all know she has a 'wife' but do we need it pushed down our throats!
How was it pushed down our throats?
And why the inverted commas around the word wife? They were married in 2015.