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Title: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: alley on Sunday 23 July 17 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi All

I'm looking for the parents of Mabel R ford born 1908 West Ham, any information very much appreciated, also looking for her husband's parents arthur E Clover

many thanks

Alan
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 23 July 17 13:34 BST (UK)
From the GRO Index search:

FORD, MABEL  ROSE      (Mother's Maiden Name:) FINCH        
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 195

(See: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
You have to register, but it's free to use)


Possible parent's marriage?
June qtr 1903
West Ham Registration District     vol 4a, page 12

Ford, Edward William
Finch, Emily Elizabeth
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 23 July 17 13:39 BST (UK)
There are far to many Arthur Clover's to check which is the right one.

I suggest you buy the marriage certificate, to check who his father was.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: alley on Sunday 23 July 17 13:41 BST (UK)
thank you very much, appreciated, Alan
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: suzard on Sunday 23 July 17 13:43 BST (UK)
Marriage
St Matthias Canning Town Essex
25 Dec 1930
Mabel Rose Ford
single
father Edward William Ford
married
Arthur Edward Raynor Clover
single
father Edward Raynor Clover

Suz
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: alley on Sunday 23 July 17 13:48 BST (UK)
Excellent Suz, thank you very much
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: suzard on Sunday 23 July 17 14:05 BST (UK)
there is a tree on A*****y which names Arthur Edward's parents as Charles William Clover & Alice King -but according to the marriage record this tree is not correct.

Wonder if they used the name Raynor-Clover??

Suz
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 23 July 17 14:17 BST (UK)
The GRO Marriage indexes have Arthur as both Clover and Rayner-Clover in 1930 ;D
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 15:35 BST (UK)
Arthur Edward Clover born 12 November 1906 died Dec qtr 1980 Poplar & Bethnal Green.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 23 July 17 15:45 BST (UK)
From FreeBMD:

Births, December qtr 1906
West Ham RD     vol 4a, page 194

Rayner, Arthur Edward


Just a "maybe"? ;D
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 15:54 BST (UK)
From FreeBMD:

Births, December qtr 1906
West Ham RD     vol 4a, page 194

Rayner, Arthur Edward


Just a "maybe"? ;D

Looks interesting. Mother's maiden name King.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 16:01 BST (UK)
Parents seem to be Edward and Alice.

Edward born c1852 (Great) Stanbridge, Essex.

Alice born c1870 Silvertown.

Free 1911 index suggests they lived in Canning Town.  Links to a Clover family look likely but not yet clear how they might be connected.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 16:04 BST (UK)
Alice may previously have been married to a Charles William Clover and had children with him who went with her into the relationship with Edward.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 16:06 BST (UK)
Charles William Clover married Alice King, Sep qtr 1889 West Ham.

Charles died Sep qtr 1901 West Ham, aged 37.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 23 July 17 16:29 BST (UK)
Edward (Charles) Rayner's wife appears to have been Eliza Jane Grimshaw, married Sep qtr 1884 West Ham.

She's not with him and their 11yr old son Edward in 1901, though he is supposedly still married.

If she was still alive when Edward got together with the widowed Alice Clover nee King, that may explain why they don't appear to have married.
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: alley on Sunday 23 July 17 16:38 BST (UK)
Thank you Kgarrad, Avm228 and Suz
Title: Re: Mabel R Ford- West Ham
Post by: alley on Tuesday 25 July 17 16:51 BST (UK)
From FreeBMD:

Births, December qtr 1906
West Ham RD     vol 4a, page 194

Rayner, Arthur Edward

Thanks
Just a "maybe"? ;D

Looks interesting. Mother's maiden name King.