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Title: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Sunday 23 July 17 21:56 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information on Donald James Jones born 1918 in Stoke Newington London.  I have what I believe to a small amount of information.  I think he died in the '90s in Palmerston North. 
He was the half brother of my father Robin John Thomson.  His mother was Mabel Rose Meredith and his father Francis James Lockwood Jones born Dunedin Otago around 1896.
He sailed for New Zealand on the HMT Kigoma with his mother in 1919.  I think his father may have been a seaman.
I'm particularly interested in any marriages or children.
Anything on Francis would be welcomed too.
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 23 July 17 22:19 BST (UK)
This is the only Donald James Jones death after 1960 on NZ BDM

1990/31295   Jones   Donald James   15 December 1926
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 23 July 17 22:20 BST (UK)
Francis James Lockwood JONES birth

1897/3362   Jones   Francis James Lockwood   Jessie   Charles
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 23 July 17 22:23 BST (UK)
Francis James Lockwood JONES, divorce (From NZ Archives)


Jones, Francis James Lockwood v Jones, Mabel Rose [marriage certificate]   1937   Christchurch High Court

Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Jean Price on Sunday 23 July 17 22:28 BST (UK)
You can find the burial details here:


http://www.pncc.govt.nz/services/onlineservices/cemetery-and-cremation-search (http://www.pncc.govt.nz/services/onlineservices/cemetery-and-cremation-search)

Jean
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 23 July 17 22:30 BST (UK)
A newspaper report of the above divorce:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19371106.2.57?query=Francis%20James%20Lockwood%20Jones
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 23 July 17 22:47 BST (UK)
Francis James Lockwood JONES death.

1966/41660   Jones   Francis James Lockwood   79Y

His probate is dated 1967, and will probably be online at Family Search next year.

Edited to add link to burial

http://heritage.christchurchcitylibraries.com/Cemeteries/interment.asp?id=57263
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 23 July 17 23:21 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information on Donald James Jones born 1918 in Stoke Newington London. 
I'm particularly interested in any marriages or children.


Hello KiwiCockney

I will send you details of a possible marriage (and divorce) for the above Donald.
Because there is a cut-off date for publication of information about New Zealand Marriages in this forum (with the resource I'm using), it will be necessary to send this to you via the personal messaging system here.

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 23 July 17 23:43 BST (UK)
Hi again KiwiCockney

I have now located further information for Donald J. JONES which, because of the recent death of a member of his family > and the fact that many people mentioned in the item, are still living,   > I'd prefer to send the link to you in a personal message.

Can you please make another post to this thread ?  (Just a smiley face or similar will do).   
A total of three posts are needed by a newcomer, in order to open up the personal messaging system at your end.  ;)

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Johnf04 on Monday 24 July 17 08:52 BST (UK)
Another thread - reply #29 relates to this topic:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=639680.msg6291444
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Thursday 27 July 17 21:27 BST (UK)
Hi Lu,  thanks.
As you may have gathered Donald was my uncle.  My dad's circumstances took him away from NZ and from his family at a very early age, he lied about his age and ran away to sea.  I was recently "found" by some of my first cousins by Dad full / Donald's half sister. This has made me even more curious about Donald.  My dad had spoken of him but not in much detail.  Thanks your interest and for the newspaper cutting.  That underpins the information that I already had but without good proof.  Looking forward to receiving anything that you at able to send.

thanks John
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Thursday 27 July 17 21:46 BST (UK)
Hello Lu, here is what I had found.

Francis James Lockwood Jones
Birth Date
1897 - Jan-Feb-Mar[1897]
Registration Place
Dunedin, New Zealand
Folio Number
932
Household Members
Name
Age
Francis James Lockwood Jones


Name
Francis James Lockwood Jones
Death Date
5 Oct 1966
Cemetery
Ruru Lawn Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place
Bromley, Christchurch City, Canterbury, New Zealand

URL
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=173749030&ref=acom

Regards  John
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Thursday 27 July 17 22:06 BST (UK)
Johnf04  ..  thanks for the links  John
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 27 July 17 22:44 BST (UK)
Hello,

1897/3362   Jones   Francis James Lockwood   Jessie   Charles


[Actual date of birth: 21.2.1897]


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Janette on Thursday 27 July 17 22:56 BST (UK)
If you use NZ BDM's for research you get the parents

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Friday 28 July 17 10:39 BST (UK)
Minnie and Janette .. Many thanks.  I'm hoping to be in NZ early 2018, the BDM will be very handy.

Cheers John
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Sunday 30 July 17 09:17 BST (UK)
Thanks to all who have helped me so far.   I've have identified that my paternal uncle was an habitual criminal with a lot of convictions and imprisonments starting at 17.  He was a prison escapee and a double Army deserter so quite a colourful character.  After 1943 things go quiet.  There is a divorce in Auckland in 1948 from a Dorethea Theresa Clare and what I believe is his death in 1990 and a burial at Palmerston North.  What I haven't established is any evidence of marriage which makes me wonder if the divorce is wrong plus there is no sign of children.  If anyone knows anything more about Donald I'd be grateful.
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: alamar on Sunday 30 July 17 11:15 BST (UK)
The 1937 divorce account of Francis Jones gives his occupation as a "Platelayer" which to me means he was employed by NZ Railways. Platelayers were a semi skilled occupation involved in track maintenance. The plates referred to were steel squares screwed to the then wooden sleepers and upon which the actual rails were laid.

Alan
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Sunday 30 July 17 11:20 BST (UK)
Thanks Alamar, that's twice I had that now so it looks to be firm information.  A coincidence because my dad finished up as Platelayer for British Rail.  There must be transferable skills from seaman to railway worker.
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 30 July 17 21:28 BST (UK)

  What I haven't established is any evidence of marriage which makes me wonder if the divorce is wrong plus there is no sign of children.  If anyone knows anything more about Donald I'd be grateful.

John ... I have information for you which I will send via the PM facility here.
(Yes, I received your earlier message.)

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: KiwiCockney on Sunday 30 July 17 21:32 BST (UK)
Thanks Lu, look forward to seeing what you have. John
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Janette on Sunday 30 July 17 22:56 BST (UK)
a death for

2000/15010   Taylor    Dorothea Theresa Clare    born 11 August 1922

She was cremated at North Shore Memorial Park Date of death 13/7/2000
Date of cremation 17/7/2000

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Prairie_Fairie on Monday 31 July 17 11:32 BST (UK)
Hi guys, I've just signed up for Rootschat. KiwiCockney is my Mum's first cousin and he's been feeding me a lot of info and it's easier if I can see updates. Messenger is not so great for me and I'm using note pad to try and straighten things up in my head. Donald would have been my 'half' great uncle. His mother, my maternal great grandmother. I haven't been on this site much (just in passing over the years, but assume that since I've posted in this thread, it will inform me of updates). Interested in the information here. Thanks to everyone responding to Kiwicockney's questions, with great information. And thank you cousin for posting in here!
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 31 July 17 11:39 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.

Yes, you should get an email each time someone posts on this thread.

You'll know if your account has been set up to receive notifications, if you get one for my post, now.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Prairie_Fairie on Monday 31 July 17 11:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Jamjar! Yes I did!
Title: Re: Donald James Jones son of Francis James Lockwood Jones
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 31 July 17 11:46 BST (UK)
Thank you Jamjar! Yes I did!

Excellent!  ;D

J.