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Title: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Kato2 on Tuesday 25 July 17 14:54 BST (UK)
Hi, can anyone help me find my grandads childhood home. The farmhouse was called Bryne Goleu he said it was near pistylls farm and ffynnon farm, he stated their was a row of cottages near by and a style. He would walk down the lane to the water pump each morning. Is it still there? I've tried Street maps etc but am unsure. Grandad is 94 so is a long time ago! Can anyone shed any light. Thanks
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 25 July 17 15:05 BST (UK)
Any idea where in Wales? Cottages and a stile aren't really great clues unfortunately. Could the place be Bryn Goleu?
http://www.northwalesholidaycottages.co.uk/cottages/brynr2-nw/
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Kato2 on Tuesday 25 July 17 15:25 BST (UK)
Hi sorry, I will was in the village of Cymau , his parents are buried in Cymau chapel. He said his house was over the back to the left of the chapel.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Tuesday 25 July 17 15:35 BST (UK)
If you put Bryn Goleu, Cymau into Google maps, you can see the street.


it's about 5 miles south of Cymau.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 25 July 17 15:41 BST (UK)
And (hopefully) here is the link to the historic mapping http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.0963&lon=-3.0548&layers=6&right=BingHyb
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Kato2 on Tuesday 25 July 17 16:22 BST (UK)
I tried this, it is not the right place.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Kato2 on Tuesday 25 July 17 16:28 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for map as you can see ffynnon farm is there and pystyll farm, grandads was in between somewhere. It wasn't as big as them probably why it's not named on map but that's where it is somewhere.or was.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 25 July 17 21:15 BST (UK)
Going by the split view map (fantastic resource) there are 2 Methodist Chapels- the (lower) one on the right side of the road doesn't seem to have a graveyard attached but the (upper) one on the left side of the road does- possibly this is where your family are buried.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Kato2 on Wednesday 26 July 17 22:19 BST (UK)
Hi, yes you are right, both his parents are buried their. Grandad said his house was up behind to the left of that chapel. He said today his cottage was split level, there was 2 cottages, his Bryn goleu, next door was called bryn derw and there was another cottage across the road, like a cluster of 3.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 03 June 19 01:04 BST (UK)
Hi do you know if it means something
Maybe there are lots of farms with that name
My great grandfather was brought up in the 1850.s in a farm near llanmaron dendighshire  called Bry Gole.

I think his foster parents were his great uncle and wife who had 3 JONES "grandchildren" living with them in 1881 and a  tho i havent found evidence of them having any children a nephew lived with his aunt there in 1901
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 03 June 19 01:32 BST (UK)
If I were you I would show your Grandad this map. He might be able to work out where his house used to be (and it may still be standing):

And (hopefully) here is the link to the historic mapping http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.0963&lon=-3.0548&layers=6&right=BingHyb

There are not very many houses showing in the area between the two large farms, so he might be able to work out which was his house, then you could look at it on street view to see if he recognises it, though it may be much altered. Regarding the three cottages nearby - they may not show on the map above if they were built later than the early 1900s, so keep that in mind.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Where is Bryne Goleu?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Monday 03 June 19 09:07 BST (UK)
Hi do you know if it means something
Maybe there are lots of farms with that name
My great grandfather was brought up in the 1850.s in a farm near llanmaron dendighshire  called Bry Gole.

It just means Light Hill, and yes, it's a very common farmhouse name in Wales.