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Title: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 07:37 BST (UK)
Hello,

John's parents were William and Elizabeth, though I know nothing of them. He married Mary Hallam (b. 1793, Norwell), in 1812, in Norwell. I'd appreciate any information on John's parents.

Thanks,

Adam
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Wednesday 26 July 17 08:59 BST (UK)
Hi Adam,

Me again,

I'm going into the archives today so will look up the Cartwright records for you as Norwell and Coddington's baptisms are not on my disc's.

NG
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 09:17 BST (UK)
That's very kind of you! Much appreciated.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 26 July 17 09:37 BST (UK)
Baptisms - (FindMyPast transcriptions)

Possibility?
John Cartwright, 6 Dec 1796, Newark on Trent, church - St. Mary Magdalene, parents John and Mary

Other baptisms to John and Mary Cartwright, Newark on Trent, church - St Mary Magdalene

Benjamin, 29 Sep 1782
Catharine, 23 May 1787
Elizabeth, 22 Nov 1789
Martha, 26 April 1784

Baptism to John and Mary Cartwright, Newark on Trent, church - not identified

William, 25 March 1792


Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 09:48 BST (UK)
Yes, that's them. That's where my information stops. No marriage or birth records for his parents.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 26 July 17 09:51 BST (UK)
I'm drawing a blank with Nottinghamshire marriage for a John Cartwright and a Mary.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 09:54 BST (UK)
Yes, so have I. Hopefully nottsgirl1 can shed some light on the matter.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 26 July 17 10:09 BST (UK)
I've checked Philimore's Marriages for the parishes of Newark and Caunton for the 5 years prior to the 1782 birth and post birth -

A William Cartwright married an Elizabeth Bloom, Caunton, 13 Dec 1785 - else have drawn a blank with both parishes.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: larkspur on Wednesday 26 July 17 14:40 BST (UK)
"William, 25 March 1792" This was also in St Mary Magdalene in Newark, as well as...
Lucy 30 July 1780

Burial Caunton
13 Jan 1811 Elizabeth Cartwright  notes- died 10 Jan wife of Wm.
15 Aug 1810 Elizabeth Cartwright died 12 Aug dau of William & Elizh.
27 June 1794 Mary Cartwright died 26th June dau of Wm & Elizth pauper.
27 Jan 1845 William Cartwright aged 88
Burial Newark St Mary...
12 July 1813 John Cartwright aged 73
5 Oct 1806 Mary Cartwright notes wife of John.

There are 14 children baptised in Caunton with parents William & Elizabeth Cartwright.
One being John, baptised 10 Oct 1790




Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 15:01 BST (UK)
This certainly sheds some light onto it larkspur, thanks. I'm going to look again at census records to reaffirm John's date of birth.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:25 BST (UK)
Hello,

John's parents were John and Mary, though I know nothing of them. He married Mary Hallam (b. 1793, Norwell), in 1812, in Norwell. I'd appreciate any information on John's parents.


How do you know John's parents were John and Mary?
1841 census has John's birth as 1787-1791 and 1861 has birth as 1785!!

The only one I can find in Caunton is John Cartwright son of William and Elizabeth born 9 Oct 1790 christened 10 Oct 1790

William and Elizabeth and 14 children in total.

NG
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:28 BST (UK)
That must be him then. My mistake. Have you got anything on William and Elizabeth Cartwright?
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:39 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just working on them can tell that 2 of their children died young.
Elizabeth wife of William died 1 Jan 1811 buried 13  Jan 1811 no aged down and William was 27 Jan 1845 aged 88yrs making him born abt 1756

Did you what the list of all their children.

NG
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:43 BST (UK)
No, thank you. Thanks for the information. I'll input it all now.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:53 BST (UK)
William Cartwright and Elizabeth Bloom married 12 Dec 1785 at Caunton.

My disc's are old one's maybe Larkspur has more up to date one's and will be able to find their births otherwise I'll have a look next time I'm in the archives.

Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to look for any time.

All the best

NG
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 17:55 BST (UK)
Thank you very much nottsgirl1. You've helped a lot.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: larkspur on Wednesday 26 July 17 18:36 BST (UK)
Already gave a raft of dates on reply no 8.  8)
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 18:40 BST (UK)
Thanks. That gives me a whole load of relatives.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Wednesday 26 July 17 18:40 BST (UK)
Sorry Larkspurs didn't see that.

NG
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1796, Caunton
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 26 July 17 20:20 BST (UK)
That must be him then. My mistake. Have you got anything on William and Elizabeth Cartwright?

I'm having double vision here with the other thread from today.

The OP had already acknowledged my pointing out the discrepancy between John/Mary/newark, and William/Elizabeth/Caunton before the above comment was made.

I don't think there's any "must" about this. John's birth could be represented by either of these; or by another one somewhere else that we haven't spotted.

Yes, we can look further at the discs (Nottsgirl, you forgot me!!  :'( :'( :P ;D) but unless we can pin him down with some more accuracy, I think the comment about having lots of new family may be a bit premature.

Should the other thread be merged with this one?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=775697.27
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 26 July 17 21:06 BST (UK)
Yes, please merge the two.
Title: Re: John Cartwright born 1790, Caunton
Post by: nottsgirl1 on Thursday 27 July 17 07:29 BST (UK)
Well I thought we had pinned him down to Caunton as that's where he says place of birth on census records and that's the only Cartwright family there.

Sorry Annie didn't mean to forget you. :'(