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Title: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 13:29 BST (UK)
Hi all, haven't been on for a while but have recently started trying to research my girlfriends family.

I'm fairly experienced with researching so have tried all the usual online routes. But I've hit a big brick wall.

I wondered if someone could see if they agree with my findings as someone online has gone down a different family line than I have and I think mine is more likely to be correct. Any thoughts on whether I'm right or wrong would be great thanks.

Plus I cannot find anything about the gentleman I am looking for! I will try and set it all out now:

I have Frederick Albert Lewis born 1924 south stoneham married Kathleen Gertrude Hards born 1922 south  stoneham, married Winchester 1947.  Her parents married in the area and her siblings were also born there.

I cannot find anything on fredericks father! Mothers maiden name on Fredericks birth record is Hewitt, I have a marriage for a Frederick E Lewis to Ellen V Hewitt in Portsmouth in 1919. I think this is correct having found Ellen ( born in Gibraltar) to be living in the area when she died and that her parents were from Portsea originally. There is another marriage fo a Frederick J Lewis to a Ellen S Hewitt that someone else has but mine seems more likely?

I cannot find a birth or death for a Frederick E Lewis that seems correct, obviously having no date of birth or death is making it very difficult! But Ellen was born in 1896, children born around the early 1920s and marriage 1919 I'm working on a DOB from 1880 to 1900.

I've been through the Southampton street directories and there are a couple of fredericks but I can't tie them in with anything. Ellen died in Eastleigh in 1983.

I'm going to order the certain for Frederick a lewis' birth and Frederick e Lewis marriage but I cant see me finding him still!

Any thoughts or help please? Just ideas would be great.

Cheers, Kev



Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: iluleah on Thursday 27 July 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Births Jun 1925  Lewis    Frederick A    Bull    Southampton    2c   60

This is the only one I can find around that time in Southhampton, this would enable you( or gf) to order his birth cert.
You say mothers maiden name is Hewitt and this one says Bull, so the birth cert you have is that direct from the family?.......... just found this Births Mar 1924  Lewis    Frederick A    Hewitt    S Stoneman    2c   190
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 27 July 17 13:44 BST (UK)
Have you tried looking for them on the 1939 register
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks for that, I have Fredrick A Lewis' birth registration details. It's his father Frederick E that I'm after although having just had the thought to check the image of his marriage reg not the transcript I'm certain it's not an E! Looks like an R to me!

Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie99, thanks, which one?
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: iluleah on Thursday 27 July 17 13:49 BST (UK)
The one you have
Marriages Dec 1919  Lewis    Frederick R    Hewitt    Portsmouth    2b   1419

'Other' one
Marriages Dec 1924   LEWIS    Frederick J    Hewitt    Wandsworth    1d   869
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 27 July 17 13:53 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie99, thanks, which one?

Any of them that are likely to be showing on it  :-\  I am referring to the register taken before WW2 not electoral register in case I was not clear  :)
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: PrawnCocktail on Thursday 27 July 17 13:55 BST (UK)

Marriages Dec 1924   LEWIS    Frederick J    Hewitt    Wandsworth    1d   869

But the 1924 birth for Fred A Lewis is in MARCH ? So this can't belong to the second marriage

Births Mar 1924  Lewis    Frederick A    Hewitt    S Stoneman    2c   190

As Rosie said, have you tried the 1939 Register?
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 27 July 17 13:56 BST (UK)
I cannot find anything on fredericks father! Mothers maiden name on Fredericks birth record is Hewitt, I have a marriage for a Frederick E Lewis to Ellen V Hewitt in Portsmouth in 1919.

I'm seeing that marriage as Frederick R Lewis and Ellen V Hewitt. They had another son Robert E b 1923 Q1 Portsmouth 2B 706. You can find them on the 1939 Register but I'm not allowed to give the details.  There's a death for a Frederick R Lewis Southampton 3Q 1968 6B 622, birth year given as 1897 which looks possible.
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 13:58 BST (UK)
Yes I have the Portsmouth one as it seems more likely, just found a Frederick Robert Lewis with his parents in Portsmouth in 1911, born in Malta looks promising. Now I know it's an R not an E middle name.
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 13:59 BST (UK)
Frederick A Lewis 1924 south stoneham is the son of Frederick R Lewis and Ellen v Hewitt, so that's correct.

I don't have access to the 1939 register so can only see the name details
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 14:01 BST (UK)
Hi prawncocktail, yes so mine must be correct then?
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 27 July 17 14:03 BST (UK)
I think the parents of the one born in Malta are
Marriages Jun 1893 
Lewis    Edward Harding       
Smith    Eliza Helen       
Portsea    2b   867   

Daughter Helen Beatrice birth reg gives mmn Smith
LEWIS, HELEN  BEATRICE     mmn SMITH     
1894  June Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 446
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 14:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie and Christine, can anyone tell me is Frederick A with them on the 1939 register please or is it his brother Robert? Thanks loads all
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: PrawnCocktail on Thursday 27 July 17 14:49 BST (UK)
Kev, Robert is there, but there's also a closed entry underneath him, which may be Frederick.
Title: Re: Help needed with Portsea/Portsmouth/Southampton family please!
Post by: Kevwood on Thursday 27 July 17 15:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for that, shame I can't confirm from it, thanks all for your help, all looks really good to me, fingers crossed the certs will confirm