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Title: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:25 BST (UK)
In the 1871 census transcription David's birthplace is given as Hingham, Ayrshire.
Is there such a place?
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 July 17 20:30 BST (UK)
Is it the same in 1861 and 1881?  Have you viewed the original or just the transcript?  Could be a transcription error
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 July 17 20:39 BST (UK)
What do you know about his parentage?  1861 has 3 entries in age range - birthplaces Kilwinning, Newton and Dalrymple
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:40 BST (UK)
This the only census I have found him in, It is the ancestry transcription
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 27 July 17 20:43 BST (UK)
Looks like it may/should be Dreghorn?

As Carole suggests, the original should clarify.

Annie
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:49 BST (UK)
FindMyPast have transcribed it as Kinghorn, so Dreghorn is paossible
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:59 BST (UK)
This birth record of his son Andrew and the 1871 census is all we have for David.
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 July 17 21:04 BST (UK)
Have you looked for the 1859 marriage for David & Elizabeth to establish his parents names
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 21:07 BST (UK)
Yes, not found on Scotlands people, so maybe they didn't
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 July 17 21:08 BST (UK)
The 1859 marriage is on SP and Elizabeth's maiden name is shown as Swanney.  It was in Glassford
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 21:14 BST (UK)
Ooh - thank you. This is not my family, but for someone that I was helping at the FHC yesterday. So don't want to spend her money without asking first.
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 27 July 17 21:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:49 BST (UK)
FindMyPast have transcribed it as Kinghorn, so Dreghorn is paossible

The only Kinghorn (I know of) is in Fife on the coastal trail but there could be others in Scotland?

Annie

Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: anne_p on Friday 28 July 17 11:43 BST (UK)
1861: Low Waters, Hamilton

David's place of birth is showing as Kincardine, Perthshire.

David Anderson   21 Ironstone Miner
Elizth Swary   24 Wife  b Strathaven
Thos Anderson   19 Boarder, Kincardine Perthshire
--------------------

EDIT:
David and Elizabeth had a child named Elizabeth, Born in Dalserf in 1873.
Elizabeth Anderson Ms Sweenie died in Dalserf in 1876 aged 38yrs.
ANDERSON
ELIZABETH
38
1876
638/2 1
Dalserf

SWEENIE
ELIZABETH
38
1876
638/2 1
Dalserf
--------------------------
David remarried Isabella Morrison in Avondale in 1877
ANDERSON
DAVID
MORRISON
ISABELLA
1877
621/ 39
39
Avondale

1881: 37 Store Row, Hamilton
Place of birth still shows as Kincardine, Perthshire

David Anderson   39 Coal Miner b Kincardine, Perthsire
Isabella Anderson   37 b Avondale
Marion Anderson   12
William Anderson   11
Elizabeth Anderson   7 ( b 1873. Dalserf.  Mother died in 1876)
David Anderson   2
Ellen Anderson   4 Mo
Alexander Watt   22 Boarder

1891: 33 Darngaber Row, Quarter, Hamilton
   
David Anderson   53 b Kingkernon Forth, Perthshire ( is this Kincardine on Forth?)
Isabella Anderson   47
David Anderson   12
Helen Anderson   10
John Anderson   7
Thomas Anderson   5
William Humes   23 boarder **** This man seems to have married daughter Elizabeth in 1893)

1901: Darngaber Row, Hamilton
David's POB shows as Hamilton

David Anderson   60
Isabella Anderson   59
David Anderson   12
John Anderson   17
Thomas Anderson   15
Lizzie Anderson   13 daughter ???


Daughter Elizabeth b 1873?
1901; Darngaber Row
William S Humes   33
Lizzie A Humes   27 b Dalserf and fits profile of youngest child born to Anderson/Sweenie marriage
William Humes   8
Lizzie Humes   6
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Friday 28 July 17 18:08 BST (UK)
Thank you so much anne_p  I will print this out and takeit  to the FHC next week. I hope you weren't using any credits?
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 28 July 17 18:16 BST (UK)
Quote from: mgeneas on Thursday 27 July 17 20:25 BST (UK)
In the 1871 census transcription David's birthplace is given as Hingham, Ayrshire.
Is there such a place?

What was the area he was living when the 1871 census was taken?

Annie

Added...To help, can you transcribe what it says please as records can't be found via references on SP i.e. need complete info.?

Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Friday 28 July 17 18:24 BST (UK)
1871 Stonehouse, Lanarkshire
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: anne_p on Friday 28 July 17 18:26 BST (UK)
No credits used, just Ancestry/FindMyPast and a free SP search
I realised that by 1881, David had the same profile but a different wife.

A quick check on SP confirmed that 1st wife, Elizabeth died in 1876 and a very probable remarriage to Isabella Morrison in 1877.

Most census returns show David's place of birth as: Kincardine.

Either of his marriages should give parent names.

Edit:
Just spotted the Military docs for son Andrew who enlisted at Fort George in 1885.
These state that he was previously in Military and had a purchased discharge.

Papers show that he served overseas, that he was in South Africa at 1900, looks like Germany in 1901 and was discharged in Feb 1902


Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 28 July 17 19:09 BST (UK)
Quote from: anne_p on Friday 28 July 17 18:26 BST (UK)
Either of his marriages should give parent names.

Agree with Anne but whichever wife your friend is descended from that would be the one to go for.

Annie
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: mgeneas on Friday 28 July 17 19:28 BST (UK)
My friend is descended from Andrew born in 1861,son of David and first wife Elizabeth, we have his birth record from Scotlands People.
Andrew was in the army, and stationed among other places in  Edinburgh Castle.
He married Rachel KIRK and they emigrated to Canada.

She is very excited about what we found this week at the FHC. She will be in UK next month and on a tour which includes Edinburgh.
I will encourage her to get the marriage record of David and Elizabeth.
Title: Re: David Anderson Birthplace
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 28 July 17 19:49 BST (UK)
Your friend will most likely still have credits to use on SP? & the marriage is downloadable.

Annie