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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: MacGrigor on Saturday 29 July 17 12:12 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Can anyone locate baptismal records for the following children:
Mabel Eliza and Minnie Ethel Pepper, born 1871, St. Mary's
Frank Pepper, born c. 1874, presumably also in St. Mary's.
Parents were John H. and Eliza Pepper.
Thanks,
Adam McGregor
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Hi,
Previous post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=775665.msg6292762#msg6292762
Mabel and Minnie's birth records were found. Frank's remains missing. Did you take Rosie99's advice
and browse the birth records.
Cheers,
DB
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I tried, but there are so many.
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I tried, but there are so many.
We would have to do the same ??? ;)
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Hi,
There is a song by Ringo Starr "You know it don't come easy" ;D ;D
There is no guarantee it's there, perhaps his parents never got around to it, or it is missing altogether, or it was illegible.
Think of it as a project, browse so many per day.
Cheers,
DB
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Yes I think I'll start doing that ;D
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Do you know his exact date of birth? Perhaps that could narrow your search? It is time consuming to search records, but it is really exciting when the record is located, if there is a record, of course (said from experience). ;)
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I'm afraid not. He was born in either 1873 or 1874, with a younger brother born in Cambridge in late 1874. I began my search today through 1873. Will probably take a while.
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Good luck in your hunt :)
Those of us who have been doing family history since before parish registers went online did all of our research this way as there were no indexes so know what it is like to have to spend hours trawling the registers. ;D
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I'm afraid not. He was born in either 1873 or 1874, with a younger brother born in Cambridge in late 1874. I began my search today through 1873. Will probably take a while.
What was the younger brother's name? Did he die before 1881? I don't see him with the family on the 1881 census.
Jacquie
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Yes, he must have died young. His name was Albert Percival Pepper, or something like that. You can find him on GRO with the mother's maiden name as Scarr.
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Births Dec qtr 1874
PEPPER Albert Percival Cambridge 3b 496
Deaths Mar qtr 1875
PEPPER Albert Percival Cambridge 3b 433
age at death was 2 (weeks or months)
Burial 12 Jan 1875 - Chesterton
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Thanks for that. So the Peppers were back in England by late 1874.
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Have you found baptisms for the children born in Cambridge :-\
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I'm afraid I haven't searched. I'll look now.
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There is a good chance that if they did not baptise their children once back in England then they did not bother when in Canada
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Nope, no recorded baptisms. However, John came from a family of Christians; his nephew, H.O. MacRow was a Methodist priest, if memory serves. They may not have been involved with religion particularly.
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St. Matthews Newington, County London England
Baptism July 11, 1896 of Frank Pepper born Aug 14, 1873 with parents shown as John Hinson Pepper and Eliza, occupation tailor, address 56 Chatter's Square.
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Thank you! He married at the same church, that same year. Thank you very much.
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Where might I find this record?
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And also, would you be able to find the marriage record at (probably) the same church, the same year, to Florence Harding?
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Found it on ancestry. Baptisms for city of London.
Will look for marriage.
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Thanks!
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Nothing indexed for their marriage. I looked at Southwark district in browse individual records section but there is nothing listed for St. Matthews Newington for 1896 in London marriages category. There are other churches in Newington - All Souls, St. Mary's.
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Ah, perhaps it was one of them.
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Hi there...
Baptisms of Minnie Ethel and Mabel Eliza Pepper
27 Feb 1898
Tunbridge Wells Kent England
Father John
Mother Eliza
There is no other info in the transcripts on A....try.
PB
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Thanks! That's helpful.
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You're welcome :). The family certainly moved around, didn't they?
There is no further info on the familysearch website either.
PB
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Yes, I also have both sisters in 1911. One became a Diplock; I forget the married name of the other one. Hills rings a bell? Anyway, yes they did move a lot! My ancestor moved to Wales and then to London before dying in Ireland in 1922.
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Hi MacGrigor,
Not what you were asking about, but I came across an article on the father, John Hinson Pepper that might be of interest:
From Cambridge Daily News 16 March 1920
AN OLD CAMPBRIDGE RESIDENT- An inquest
held on March 11th, at East Twickenham, Mid-
dlesex, by Mr. R Kem, JP on John Hinson
Pepper, aged 71, who died from heart disease
suddenly early on Wednesday morning resulted
in a verdict of "Death from natural causes."
Mr. Pepper, who lived in Cambridge-parade,
Richmond-road, Twickenham, where he had
been in business for the past nine years, was
very well known to a large number of Cam-
bridge people, having been in business here for
many years at 29 Bridge-street, and also previ-
ously with his father at the corner of Ram-yard,
as Pepper and Sons, University tailors and robe
makes. Just prior to living at Twickenham he
managed a business at Histoc.
I cannot locate "Histoc" on any map, so perhaps it is a typo ???
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That's great! I've been looking for any newspaper record for his death for ages.
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I doubt the Peppers would've been recorded on a census but is there any information about where the family lived in St. Mary's between 1871 and 1873/4? Tax or electoral registers?
Added: for John Hinson Pepper, a tailor born 1849, Cambridge and co.