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Title: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 08:35 BST (UK)
Hello,
I'm interested to find out where someone would have gone to have a baby in the 1940's in the Sketty area? How long would the mother have needed to stay before the birth?
I'm assisting a friend who's wife has passed away but she was born in this area mid 1940's and was given up for adoption. We have adoption papers and birth certificate.
But I'm looking to find out where she might have been as it was a couple of months after she was born that she was adopted. What homes were there at this time?
Thank you
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 30 July 17 09:11 BST (UK)
That was before the National Health Service started.
And home births were a lot more common then.

Workhouses usually had an attached infirmary, and these ususally became hospitals once the NHS started.

Swansea workhouse was no exception,
The infirmary there became known as Tawe Lodge, and later Mount Pleasant Hospital.
See: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Swansea/

There should be an address on the Birth Certificate?
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 10:47 BST (UK)
Thanks KGarrad,

I don't believe this was a home birth unless the mother was staying with a friend or relative.
As her address was that of her grandparents in Barnstaple.

Yes there is an address on the birth cert.
Cartref, Townhill Road Sketty.

I have tried googling the address but no luck.

Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 30 July 17 11:07 BST (UK)
The Welsh word "cartref" means home in English. ;D

Mount Pleasant Hospital was on Townhill Road.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 11:13 BST (UK)
Thanks, that makes sense but which home is now the question?
It maybe a mystery I wont get an answer too.
Unless there is a home for single/unwed mothers or the like.
The mother wasn't a young woman she was 27yr at the time.

I'll keep on searching.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: Deirdre784 on Sunday 30 July 17 12:17 BST (UK)
I think KGarrad is trying to tell you that Mount Pleasant hospital as is now, was formerly the workhouse (Cartref).
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 12:27 BST (UK)
Thanks, getting late here in Australia not thinking straight :)

So is Mount Pleasant hospital still existing today?
As this birth was in 1944.

The lady that adopted her came from Mount Pleasant and was listed as school teacher.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: Deirdre784 on Sunday 30 July 17 12:32 BST (UK)
The hospital closed in 1995 and has apparently now been converted to student accommodation 😀
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 12:36 BST (UK)
The hospital closed in 1995 and has apparently now been converted to student accommodation 😀

Thanks, I wonder if records are still kept and who would have them?
I'll do some research and see what I can find, unless someone might know :)
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: Deirdre784 on Sunday 30 July 17 12:38 BST (UK)
Mount Pleasant is also an area of Swansea (where the workhouse / hospital was).

I think you'll find that by the 1940s a number of the workhouses had become infirmaries (maybe for births and elderly patients) before being taken over by the NHS.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: Deirdre784 on Sunday 30 July 17 12:41 BST (UK)
Looks like there are some records at the West Glamorgan Archive Service in Swansea, though there will probably be limited access (for the time you are looking for as they are not yet 100 years old).
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: Deirdre784 on Sunday 30 July 17 12:42 BST (UK)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F153269
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Sunday 30 July 17 12:57 BST (UK)
Thanks, I'll contact them and ask the question.

A long wait for another 27yrs for the 100yrs. Doubt I'll be around then.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 30 July 17 13:02 BST (UK)
1938 map ( published 1947)

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102183081

You can see Townhill Road - middle of map and tab south. Mount Pleasant Hospital/Tawe Lodge/Workhouse is off the map - to the east.

"Cartref" in Welsh means home but not in the sense of a refuge/shelter/institution.
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 30 July 17 13:06 BST (UK)
This is an 1948/53 map.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102183078

Part of Townhill Road now named "Vivian Road"
Title: Re: Sketty, Glamorgan
Post by: aussie researcher on Monday 31 July 17 06:38 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link to maps they are great.