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Title: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Sunday 30 July 17 18:31 BST (UK)
Is it possible to find parents of Charles F L Haynes born aug 1911 on  the 1911 census, mothers maiden name Jackson. born Aston birmingham
with thanks
kitman64
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 30 July 17 18:36 BST (UK)
Sorry we are not allowed to do 1911 look ups
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Sunday 30 July 17 18:37 BST (UK)
ok
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 30 July 17 18:39 BST (UK)
As he was born Aston RD have you considered this couple
Marriages Mar qtr 1911 
Haynes    Alfred       
Jackson    Harriet       
Aston    6d   358
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 30 July 17 18:39 BST (UK)
Wasn't the 1911 census taken in early April?

Maureen
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 30 July 17 18:44 BST (UK)
As he was born Aston RD have you considered this couple
Marriages Mar qtr 1911 
Haynes    Alfred       
Jackson    Harriet       
Aston    6d   358

A postem added to FreeBMD

Marriage on 12 Feb1911 at St Margarets Church,Parish of Ward End,
Warwick, after banns.
Alfred Haynes Age 25, Widower, Fruiterer, of 604 Washwood Heath Road. Father John Haynes, Fruiterer.
Married Harriet Jackson, Spinster age 22 of
604 Washwood Heath Road. Father Charles Jackson, Miner
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Sunday 30 July 17 19:31 BST (UK)
great possibility i'll have a good look at that one many thanks
kitman
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 30 July 17 19:42 BST (UK)
1935 electoral register has Charles Frederick Leonard Haynes at 26 Low Wood Road, Erdington, along with Alfred Harry, Harriet and Lavinia

Two trees on Ancesty have a different set of parents, but with no documentary proof of the connection between child and purported parents

Moderator comment: 1939 details removed. You may only post information from a free search.
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 30 July 17 19:48 BST (UK)
There is a tree on Anc that lists Charles as the son of Arthur Haynes b 1879 Dudley Worcestershire and Mary Elizabeth Jackson b 26 Oct 1887 ., St. Martin, Birmingham but the tree is not well documented  :-[

Kay
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Monday 31 July 17 18:42 BST (UK)
I noticed the different trees on ancestry, that's why i'm seeking a bit of clarity and a liitle help
I had the marriage of Alfred and harriet but not fathers first names thanks for that found 3 harriet Jackson births in Birmingham 1888 and 1889 but failing to cross ref any of them with certainty aso found 1891 census for Alfred parent john and elizabeth though his age is slightly out also a harriet jesse Jackson sep 1888 born Walsall as I see on the 1911 census she is with alfred
kitman
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 31 July 17 21:23 BST (UK)
This would be Alfred in 1901 - address 604 Washwood Road - a green grocer's assistant, following in his father's footsteps. All b Birmingham

John Haynes    50
Emily Haynes    39
Alfred Haynes    17
Annie Haynes    14 - step daughter
John Haynes    1 month
Ada Hayes    13 servant
William Haynes    1 month

RG13, 2880, 146, 2
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 31 July 17 21:34 BST (UK)
also possible for Harriet on 1901 in Brownhills nr Walsall 

Charles Jackson    36 - coal miner and hewer
Fanny Jackson    34
Frederick Jackson    14
Harriet Jackson    12  [transcribed as harris by ancestry]
Nellie Jackson    8
Samuel Jackson    6
Rose Jackson    4
Fanny Jackson    7/12

RG13, 2654, 195, 29
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 01 August 17 10:43 BST (UK)
many thaks for that Mabel they do seem right familys on census 1901; couple of harriet jacksons Birmingham 1888/9 am sending off for march 1888 birth in Walsall for harriet anything else anyone finds is appreciated
kitman
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 01 August 17 11:42 BST (UK)
Marriage Sep qtr 1886   
HEATH    Fanny       
Jackson    Charles       
Lichfield    6b   520   

JACKSON, HARRIET       mmn HEATH     
1889  June Quarter in LICHFIELD RD  Volume 06B  Page 479

Possibly Nellie
JACKSON, ELLEN  JANE     mmn HEATH     
1893  Dec Quarter in LICHFIELD RD  Volume 06B  Page 445

JACKSON, SAMUEL       mmn HEATH     
1895  March Quarter in LICHFIELD RD  Volume 06B  Page 507

JACKSON, ROSE       mmn HEATH     
1897  Sept Quarter in LICHFIELD RD  Volume 06B  Page 482

JACKSON, FANNY       mmn HEATH     
1900  Dec Quarter in LICHFIELD RD  Volume 06B  Page 465
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Wednesday 02 August 17 13:55 BST (UK)
thanks for marriage Rosie I have on the 1901 census John Haynes and Emily with annie step-daughter
cannot as locate on 1881 census or marriage FOR JOHN AND EMILY
KITMAN
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 August 17 14:33 BST (UK)
Could this be Alfred Haynes and father John in 1891 - Johns occupation is green grocer
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WLPM-YN2

Maria Haynes
Death Registration March qtr 1896
Age at Death 45
Reg district Aston

Maria Price married John Haynes 1866 Birmingham
..................
Possible remarriage
Marriages Sep qtr 1896
Bailey    Florence Beatrice       
Haynes    John       
Lees    Emily
       
PERKINS    Thomas       
Aston    6d   693




Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 August 17 17:39 BST (UK)
I know that the 1901 has the 'twins' as John & William Haynes but maybe they changed their minds after the census and before registration  :-\  ???

HAYNES, HARRY       mmn STAIT     
1901  June Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 381
HAYNES, JOHN       mmnSTAIT     
1901  June Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 381

Emily's previous marriage
Marriage Dec qtr 1885   
LEES    Albert Henry       
Stait    Emily       
Aston    6d   370


Deaths Sep 1892 
Lees    Albert Henry    age 29   
Aston    6d   188


1891
RG12/2423 f16 p26 - Red lion Inn, Thimble Mill Lane
Alfred H Lees   Married   27 Publican   
Emily      28   
Nellie A      Daughter 4
all born Birmingham   

Annie the step daughter in 1901  ;)
LEES, NELLIE  ANNIE     mmn STAIT     
1886  Dec Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 312
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Wednesday 02 August 17 19:24 BST (UK)
again thanks Rosie for all info does look positive twins names changed after census taken, will divulge info and see where I get from there
kitman
Title: Re: charles f l haynes born aug 1911
Post by: kitman64 on Thursday 03 August 17 20:07 BST (UK)
found family now on 1881 census John Haynes down as Haines with first wife Maria
kitman