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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Regorian on Sunday 30 July 17 18:53 BST (UK)
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From my family, Tassee (Tacy) Griffiths bapt Mitcheltroy, Mon 30Aug1747.
Died 1757, burial not in PR.
Overseers Assessments & Disbursements.
1757. For burying PHILE Griffits (sic) & expenses 13/7p.
What does PHILE mean apart from 'love' please ?
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Phileas?
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Tacy was a girl. It was quite a common name for females in the 16th and 17th Centuries (Silent one). By the 18th Century more or less confined to Quakers.
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Whoops! Didn't read the first sentence!
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No problem, I have done much worse ;).
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To make any worthwhile suggestion we need to see the original entry.
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Thank you for answers so far. Handwritten notes from entries in Disbursements book. 'phile' small 'p' is quite clear. What I wrote for this is all there is.
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Of course, without seeing the source document, this is somewhat speculative, but the most likely word I would expect to see in this context is "Miss". I wonder whether what looks like 'ph' is actually 'M', what looks like 'l' is actually a long 's', and the 'e' is actually a short 's'.
When a word doesn't seem to make sense, often it's not as clear as it seems to be.
Steve
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Thank you for your input Steve. I don't think a photocopy of the page would change anything, the manuscript is quite clear. Background was father John died in 1749, leaving widow Hannah with three small children, Michael, Thomas and Tassee (Tacy).
1750 2d for Mick Griffiths, 1751 4d for Tom Griffits (sic), 1757 4d for Michollo Griffiths.
The familiarity shown to the childrens names suggest good feeling, not resentment these people living on the Parish.
I am descended from Thomas and one descendant of Michael may be a Rootschatter today, but we can't prove it.
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Burial (FindMyPast image)
Phillip Griffiths, age 97, 25 April 1757, Llantilio Crossenny
Mitchel Troy and Llantilio Crossenny not all that far apart.
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Indeed not, thank you. Trouble is I have no marriage for John and Hannah. Searched the PR's back to the 1670's and the parishes surrounding Mitcheltroy, moving outwards.
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1750 2d for Mick Griffiths, 1751 4d for Tom Griffits (sic), 1757 4d for Michollo Griffiths.
Well, at the risk of belaboring the point - "Michollo" is probably actually "Michelle", because in the handwriting back then an 'e' often looked a lot like an 'o' today. If the 'e' in "phile" doesn't look like that, it could be a different letter.
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Thanks, all I can say is the text is clear, which was not always the case with Mitcheltroy records.
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Further thanks to everyone that contributed. 'phile' was actually Phillip born 1660. Hanes Teulu found this. A 2nd cousin has employed a professional genealogist who has cracked it all. So 'phile' (Tassee) did not die in 1757. I had found her burial at Whitchurch 1827 aged 79, giving a birth year of 1748.