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Title: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Dino from Kent on Tuesday 01 August 17 16:05 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any connection to this lady. She was my great-grandfathers older sister (he was Henry George Webb, the second of eight children). She has an interesting story (and rather sad). She was widowed young and also died young at just 30. Her children were then at the Blean Workhouse for a period but it appears they stuck together as much as possible, some of them going to Canada for a while but returning to Herne Bay. If anyone has more information on them I would be grateful. Thanks
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 03 August 17 13:21 BST (UK)
Hi there I don't have any connection to this family and not sure if you have this information on Fanny Philadelphia Newing
Marriage 27/4/1904 Boston Massachusetts
Philadelphia F Newing birth about 1873 England age 31
Father Edwin B Newing
Mother Francis Webb
Spouse William N Pascoe birth about 1876 England age 28
Father Andrew Pascoe
Mother Anna Rowse

They are on the 1930 Census address Worley Street Boston Suffolk
William N Pascoe age 53
Philadelphia F Pascoe 57
William N Pascoe 1906-1983
Herbert A Pascoe 1908 -1946
Charlotte N Newing age 49 sister in law

1940 Census transcribed as Gascoe on An'''''''''y

Mason Membership Card
William Nathaniel Pascoe birth date 7 June 1876 Cornwall England
Died 17 July 1956 Boston

Not seeing a death for Philadelphia Fanny but she is still at Worley Street Boston 1968

Can't find a marriage for her sister Charlotte Naomi Newing but she appears to have died  1955 Los Angles as Charlotte Naomi Fischer ....www.findagrave.com

Death index Charlotte Fischer ( Newing ) 18 March 1955
Mother Webb
Father Newing

US Naturalization Records
Charlotte Naomi Newing place of birth Whitstable England 25 November 1877
Address 9.Linden Street Brookline Mass
Unmarried.. Social Worker
Date 19 June 1922

Rosie
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 03 August 17 14:04 BST (UK)
Nathaniel Newing  b 1877 England , father Edwin B Newing , mother Frances Webb
married 25 Dec 1906 Boston, Massachusetts
Annie S Meldrum b 1878 Scotland , parents John R Meldrum and Mary Dove

US census
1900
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSV1-MTL
1910
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVL7-KPJ
1920
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHQC-VMM
1940
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K97B-R64

Death in California
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JGQS-3MW

There are numerous other records for Nathaniel on familysearch so I'm sure you can find them , if you haven't already done so.
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 03 August 17 14:10 BST (UK)
Marriage for Nathaniel Newing 25 December 1906 Boston Mass
Nathaniel Newing age 29 ( painter ) address Marlboro Street
Father Edwin B Newing
Mother Francis Webb
Spouse Anne S Meldrum age 28 ( domestic) same address
Father John R Meldrum
Mother Mary Dove

Naturalization Record
Nathaniel Newing age 65 birth 26 Oct 1876 Whitstable Kent
Declaration date 13 Dec 1941 Los Angeles

Death date 5 Dec 1966 Los Angeles
Mothers maiden name Pathende

1920 Census address West Lemon Avenue Monrovia Los Angles
Nathaniel Newing 41 b England painter own shop
Annie M Newing 37 b Scotland
Mary Delphia Newing age 12 b California
John Edward Newing age 9 born California

Death for John Edward Newing 29 Mar 1986 California
Death for Mary Philadelphia Newing Forster 11 March 2002
www.findagrave.com

Rosie
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 03 August 17 14:18 BST (UK)
You could also check these deaths
Edwin Henry Newing born about 1869 died 1925 Blean Kent aged 56

Nelson Newing born about 1874 died 1934 Blean Kent aged 61

Rosie  :)
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Dino from Kent on Friday 04 August 17 18:12 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie and Christine.

The info on Fanny Philadelphia Newing (Fanny Jane's daughter) is particularly interesting as she seemed to disappear on my records after travelling to Halifax, Canada in 1890.

Nathaniel and Charlotte are on the 1901 census in Herne Bay
Edwin & Nelson are on the 1901 and 1911 census's in Folkestone and Herne Bay
but I had no record of Fanny Philadelphia.

I used to check things on familysearch long ago but got a bit miffed by the amount on inaccuracies so stopped looking. I guess like everything in family history you have to take a lead from somewhere and then check it out for yourself. I shall now explore the info held on familysearch with added enthusiasm so many thanks to you both.  :)
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Dino from Kent on Monday 07 August 17 17:01 BST (UK)
Thanks again to Rosie and Christine. I have had a look at familysearch again and it is a very different site to how I remembered it. I think I shall be spending a lot of time on there checking my whole tree to see if there are things I have missed in the past.

By the way thanks to everyone on rootschat too - I've always found you very helpful.

Dino  :)
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 07 August 17 18:11 BST (UK)
Your very welcome Dino glad to have been able to help  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: RJ137 on Friday 27 July 18 18:17 BST (UK)
Some bit & pieces to add

Charlotte Naomi (Newing) Fischer

CADI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPFR-WY3

Her brother Nathaniel was the informant on her death certificate

Death Cert: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mez/

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The Los Angeles Times
Los Angeles, California
Sunday, January 27, 1957 - Page 154

Nathaniel Newing
MONROVIA Celebrating 50 years of marriage, Mr. and Mrs. Nathaniel Newing were honored at an open house at the home of their daughter, Mrs. John B. Forster. The Newings, 334 W Lemon Ave., were married in Boston and came to California on their honeymoon. When they decided to stay,  they made their home in Monrovia, and after short residences on Alta Vista and Linwood Sts., moved to their present address. They have a son John E. Newing of North Hollywood, two grandchildren and one great-grandchild.
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Dino from Kent on Friday 03 August 18 00:29 BST (UK)
Thank you RJ137 for the further information.  :)

I hadn't looked at these before now. It's amazing how much info is out there - if only there was the time to look at it all. Thanks again

Dino
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: stridor on Sunday 16 June 19 11:48 BST (UK)
Hi Fanny was my Great Grandmother I would love to hear what you have found out about the family, perhaps we can share info. Basically after the workhouse 4 of the children immigrated to America. One of the girls went to Canada. Both girls married but had no children. Nelson, my granddad stayed in england and went to sea at 13 and was survived by 3 children at his death. Gladys the eldest one being my mother. Two of the boys returned to england but only one survived to marry and have children. I did know his son Ben. This family still lives near scotland but we are no longer in contact since Ben Died. We also had visits from America until again the daughter died. My names are not clear at the moment as it is a long time since I did a search. I believe their was also an Auntie Grace who visited from Canada. Regards Jean
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: Dino from Kent on Sunday 16 June 19 17:32 BST (UK)
Hi Jean -
I'm so pleased you have contacted me. My main interest has been the Webb family in Whitstable. The way these children were dealt such an awful start to their lives (losing both parents so early) but appear to have overcome it and remained close, has always impressed me. I would love to let you know what I have and fill in some gaps in my own tree. Fanny's father was Henry Webb who was a diver - if you search my posts you will find info about his life and death.
If you are interested it may be best to send me a personal message so we can exchange info that way. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards Dino
Title: Re: Fanny Jane Newing (nee Pattenden)
Post by: IgorStrav on Sunday 16 June 19 17:55 BST (UK)
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