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Title: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 SOLVED
Post by: NicolaasMars on Monday 07 August 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Richard Francis COLLINS married 17 Aug 1911 in Newton, MA, USA with Mary Ann Duffin. His marriage certificate states that he was born 13 Nov 1885 in Tipperary. His parents were William Collins and Mary Macksey. (His draft for the US Army says he was born 1, rather than 13, Nov 1885.)

I found him with his parents in the 1901 census, living in Douglas, Cork. The census also says that he and his parents and siblings were all born in Tipperary. However, I have been unable to find his birth record. Any help in finding this is very welcome.

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 Tipperary
Post by: sam.b on Monday 07 August 17 20:08 BST (UK)
Richard was born on the 18th October 1882 in Tipperary, you can view the Birth Certificate on line at:
 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 SOLVED
Post by: NicolaasMars on Monday 07 August 17 20:39 BST (UK)
Thank you for this quick reply!

Was it common for immigrants to the USA to lie about their data of birth, or was this genuine ignorance?

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 Tipperary
Post by: Sinann on Monday 07 August 17 21:07 BST (UK)
People often weren't sure when they were born, it's not unusual to be out by a few years.
Brother Denis was born 1871
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03101/2137314.pdf

For Ref 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Douglas/Douglas_Village/1136987/
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 Tipperary
Post by: dathai on Monday 07 August 17 21:21 BST (UK)
parents marriage 1866
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDQ-NML
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 Tipperary
Post by: Sinann on Monday 07 August 17 21:28 BST (UK)
Quote from: dathai on Monday 07 August 17 21:21 BST (UK)
parents marriage 1866
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDQ-NML

Right hand page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632776#page/54/mode/1up
Title: Re: Birth record sought of Richard Francis COLLINS, born circa 1885 Tipperary
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 08 August 17 08:35 BST (UK)
in the above NLI register posted by Sinann  if you look up to the marriage on the 8th of July 1866 you will see Michael Lysaght to Honora Mackessy
marriage transcribed here as Sysat
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDQ-NM6
children
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kij/
Honorah died Oct 1894 age 54 at Goat Lane,married and a car owners wife informant was a cousin Honoria Hayes of Church St,Tipperary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05949/4690601.pdf
Michael 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Tipperary_Town/Butler_Lane/1720072/