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Title: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Wednesday 09 August 17 23:34 BST (UK)

Hi--
    Looking for this family in 1891 Census.
Here they are in 1881--Five Roads, Hengoed, Llanell:

William Thomas      Head       34       Coalminer          b. Llanelly
Hannah       "          Wife         31                                      "
Mary           "          Daur         8       Scholar                      "
Thomas       "          Son          6           "                           "
John            "          Son          4                                       "   
Lettuce        "          Daur         1                                       "

William may have died prior to 1891. they may have moved to Glamorgan--not sure.
Looking for them in 1891.
Thanks.
Stephen Simon, CT, USA

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 10 August 17 03:34 BST (UK)

I can't easily spot them in 1891. At least I can't find Let*ce born around 1880 (I decided to focus on her as she has the most unusual name). I can't see a death for her which fits between 1881 and 1891 either.

What leads you to believe William may have died before 1891, and that they may have moved to Glamorgan?

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Thursday 10 August 17 04:05 BST (UK)

Thanks for looking. Someone who is a possible
descendant mentioned that William died before 1891.
I have tried to contact him (the relative)--no answer.
He also said that there were 2 other daughters
born in the 1880s--Hannah (1886) & Anne (1888).
Not sure about Glamorgan. Thanks again for
checking.
Stephen

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 10 August 17 04:08 BST (UK)

If it's true that William did die, it is possible that Hannah remarried. I will have another look for the family in 1891 with the new children's names in mind. :)

Added: No, sorry Stephen, I can't find the family, even just searching for "let*ce" born around 1880 ....

I hope someone else can help you.  :-\

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Thursday 10 August 17 13:09 BST (UK)

Hi--
   Thanks. I will try to get other information.
Stephen

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: baranan on Saturday 03 February 18 17:01 GMT (UK)

In the 1911 census,Letitia Thomas is a bottle washer at the Mineral Water Co.
Living at 9, Long Row, Felinfoel with
William Thomas 53
Mary Ann  "       48
Gwladys    "       24
Letitia        "      21
Charlotte    "      10.
 William's birthplace is Llanelly Rural (which Five Roads came under)
Hope these are the family!!

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 03 February 18 17:15 GMT (UK)

1891 -  RG12 Piece number 4412 Folio 48 Page   35

Blaenllecha Road, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
 
Hanna    Thomas   Widow   Female   48   no pob
Mary   Thomas   Daughter   Single   Female   18   no pob
John   Thomas   Son   Single   Male   14   Llanelly Carmarthenshire, Coal Miner
Letiea   Thomas   Daughter   Single   Female   11    " Carmarthenshire Scholar
Ann   Thomas   Daughter      Female   8   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales   Scholar
Hannah   Thomas   Daughter   Female   5   " Carmarthenshire, Wales
Margaret   Thomas   Visitor   Single   Female   18   " Carmarthenshire, Wales   Dressmaker   
Henry   Barres   Lodger   Married   Male   48   " Carmarthenshire, Wales   Fitter   
William   Thomas   Lodger   Single   Male   23   " Carmarthenshire, Wales   Coal Miner   
Thomas   Thomas   Son   Single   Male   16            " Carmarthenshire, coal miner

Cas

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Saturday 03 February 18 17:29 GMT (UK)

Hello--
    Thank you for the information.
Stephen

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Saturday 03 February 18 17:30 GMT (UK)

The 1891 Census is correct. The 1911 is a different family. Thank you for checking.
Stephen

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: baranan on Saturday 03 February 18 17:44 GMT (UK)

Sorry got mixed up with dates!!
Two daughter were born in Llanelli, namely Ann in 1883, Hannah in 1886.
Letitia died in 1960 in Pontypridd.

Title: Re: William Thomas, Five Roads, Llanelly 1891?
Post by: stesim58 on Saturday 03 February 18 17:47 GMT (UK)

Hi--
   Thank you again. So many people with the same names!
Stephen