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Title: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 08:59 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have a mystery that I'm unable to solve.  I'm not sure if buying a certificate will help me.

William Baker(my 4 x great grandfather) born Derby 1767 was a Silk Man (Silk Agent in 1841 and 1851).  He married his wife Ann Mowry (another mystery but for another day..) in St Sepulchre London in November 1813 and they had four children, the eldest being Ann, born, intriguingly, in 1810.

By 1841, William and his eldest daughter were in Kings Place, Nottingham.  No sign of his wife.  His second daughter, Mary Ann and third daughter Hannah were married in London and his son George was also in London.  I can't find a death for his wife.

William died in Nottingham in 1859 just before Christmas and his death is noted in the Nottingham press.  He was 91.
In October 1860, his daughter Ann, now aged 50, married William Bradley at St. Mary Nottingham. This was also noted in the local press.

After that, they disappear.  I can't find them in the 1861 census or after that.  I can't find a death for Ann in Nottingham or London.  I've no idea how old William Bradley was.

A marriage certificate would tell me his occupation and age but I'm not sure whether that will help.

What could have happened to them?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Comberton on Friday 11 August 17 11:11 BST (UK)
From the Nottinghamshire Guardian
11th October 1860
Bradley-Fewkes
On the 7th instant at St. Mary’s Church, Nottingham
Mr William Bradley to Miss Mary Fewkes

Bradley-Baker
On the 8th instant at St. Mary’s Church, Nottingham
Mr William Bradley to Miss Ann Baker


England & Wales Civil Registration Index

Oct-Dec 1860
Nottingham
7b 316

Ann Baker
William Bradley
 Mary Fewkes
William Tomlin

Nottinghamshire Marriages Index
8th October 1860
Nottingham St. Mary’s
Ann Baker
William Tomlin


Looks like the paper made a mistake







Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 11:14 BST (UK)
So she married Mr. Tomlin?  ???
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Comberton on Friday 11 August 17 11:32 BST (UK)
Yes

Should have added
Nottinghamshire Marriages Index
7th October 1860
Nottingham St. Mary’s
Mary Fewkes
William Bradley

Confirms both couples
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 11:36 BST (UK)
Brilliant!

I've found them in the 1861.  He's older than her at 71 and it shows no occupation.  I can't read hers. 
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: josey on Friday 11 August 17 12:02 BST (UK)
Well spotted, Comberton.

Could this be Ann's death?
Deaths Sep 1876 
Tomlin    Ann    63    Nottingham    7b   183

& William's ?
Deaths Sep 1880 
TOMLIN    William    91    Nottingham    7b   157

From Nottinghamshire Burials Index
First name(s)   William
Last name   Tomlin
Age   91
Birth year   1789
Denomination   Anglican
Burial year   1880
Burial date   23 Jul 1880
Burial place   Sneinton
Church   St Stephen
Residence   Belvoir Terrace
County   Nottinghamshire

Same address but year& age don't fit so perhaps another couple
First name(s)   Ann
Last name   Tomlin
Age   84
Birth year   1796
Denomination   Anglican
Burial year   1880
Burial date   06 Aug 1880
Burial place   Sneinton
Church   St Stephen
Residence   Belvoir Terrace
County   Nottinghamshire

No 1876 Tomlin burial indexed.
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: josey on Friday 11 August 17 12:17 BST (UK)
1871 RG10; Piece: 3519; Folio: 58; Page: 42; has a 59 yr old Ann Tomlin widow lace silk winder lodging in St Mary's parish. I can't read the 1861 occupation either....

The William Tomlin, gentleman, that lived in Belvoir Hill, Sneinton & died in 1880 left a will, less than £25000, executors Eliza Ann Tomlin spinster daughter & Alfred Tomlin gentleman son
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 12:56 BST (UK)
Thank you.

The GRO has William Tomlin's death in Q4 1865 aged 75 so I expect that's him.


Currently looking for Ann's death. 
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Annie65115 on Friday 11 August 17 14:24 BST (UK)
Possible burials:

18 Aug 1876 @ Nott St Mary; Ann Tomlin, age 63, abode Nelson St

9 Aug 1880 @ St Stevens, Sneinton; Ann Tomlin , age 84, abode Belvoir Terrace. (Same road as William Tomlin age 91, buried 2 weeks earlier).

Any help?
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 14:30 BST (UK)
I think the 1876 one is right.  Thank you.
Title: Re: What Happened to Ann Baker?
Post by: Tsu on Friday 11 August 17 15:07 BST (UK)
I'm going to post the indecipherable occupation in the handwriting forum.  Thank you for all your help :)