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I have traced my Great Grandfather James McGreevy to 1901 census living in Belfast (His age is stated as 40 but my Father said he was born in 1846. There is a family history about him owning a Tug Boat called the Vesta. It states he is a Tug boat Master on the census record. I have found a man called Richard McGreevy in Wylies Street directory for Belfast 1861 living in 45 Pilot Street Belfast it states he is Captain of the Vesta. I also found an advert for sale of the Vesta in the Belfast Telegraph archives 1881 stating to apply to the owner Richard McGreevy at 44 Ship Street Belfast. How can I confirm if he is my Great Great Grandfather? Or any relation to James.
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1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward__Belfast/New_Dock_Street/932878/
He has a son Richard
Richard's birth gives his mother as Mary Ann Holmes
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02584/1955035.pdf
James marriage to Mary gives his father as Richard a Captain
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10833/5951653.pdf
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Hi and welcome to rootschat ;D
From the Extracts from Register of Deceased Seamen 1914-1918
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~econnolly/register/regni1914_18.html
McGreevy J Fireman Belfast 20 Moffett St., Belfast 19/10/1917 Drowned at sea
In the 1880 Belfast / Ulster Street Directory McGreevy, Richard, sea captain, 44 Ship Street
and............ James marries Mary Ann Holme 31 May 1886 James father is Richard occupation Captain)
............... Sinann has beat me to it ;D
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Richard McGreevy 9 New Dock St. (James' address on census)
Retired Captain died 1900, informant Mary Ann McGreevy daughter in law
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05755/4625529.pdf
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Thank you so much everyone this is matching the information I researched and has given me some excellent leads to try and find more of my family.
I now know that My Father James McGreevy (Born 1940 - died 2015) had a Father Charles (born in 1896 died 1973) and his Father was James McGreevy (Sea Captain) born approx 1861 and I think died 1909) although not sure if this is right as Daddy said his Father told him that James McGreevy died when he was 9 years old (Although this could be family error as it may have been he died in 1909) - I found this but the ages don't match correctly
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05463/4528870.pdf
It states James is 46 in 1909 but in the 1901 census he was 40 and on his marriage record to Mary Ann Holmes he was 25 in 1886. Could this be the same man? Just the age recorded incorrectly it looks like a nephew recorded the death. If this is him I may be able to trace my great grandfather's brother.
I am so delighted that I can now confirm that my Great Great Grandfather is Richard McGreevy born 1817 and died 1900.
Just one other lovely fact that I want to share with you all Richard McGreevy my Grandfathers brother who you found the birth record for was a Trimmer on Titantic when she sailed from Belfast. He got off in Southhampton probably did not want to leave his young family to go to Americia at that stage. Here's the link I found and it must be him as I cannot find any other Richard who would be 26 born in Belfast at that time. Its great to confirm he was born 1886 as it matches the record.
https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/richard-mcgreevy.html
My Father had told me that my Grandfather Charles did a tour on Titantic before she left Belfast - you could buy tickets to go on board. Daddy had no idea that his Uncle worked on the ship.
Can anyone advise me how I would find a birth or marriage record for the Richard McGreevy born 1817?
Thank you again for all your help.
Kind regards
E.McG
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When the Titanic sea trials started in Belfast many trades people were still working on the ship and so continued throughout those and same goes for when it left Belfast to go to Southampton, so many made the trip to Southampton, then returned to Belfast.
So it is likely he was working on the ship still and just looked he was a Trimmer, so was part of the Belfast Engine crew, which changed at Southampton for the Atlantic crossing, so with his job the Titanic wouldn't have gone very far without the engineering crew to take it.
Southampton has a statue dedicated to the Titanic Engineers
http://www.discoversouthampton.co.uk/visit/history/titanic
https://www.123rf.com/photo_12926413_detail-of-the-titanic-engineers-memorial-in-southampton-uk-the-titanic-sank-on-it-s-maiden-voyage-fr.html
There is a forum which specialises in the Titanic should you want to find out more http://www.titanic-titanic.com/forum/index.php
PRONI have a Harland and Wolff Archive D/2805 [/url] "It consists of about 2,000 files, 200 volumes and 16,000 documents 1861-1987." https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/introduction-harland-wolff-papers
and this is a great site https://nmni.com/titanic/Design-Build/Harland---Wolff/Belfasts-Titanic-Shipyard.aspx
In so far as birth registration 1817 is too early for birth certs, you would be looking for a baptism record
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Don't get too caught up with ages, death certs in particular are often incorrect but it's often the case that people simply didn't know their own age so all records must be considered to possibly have incorrect ages.
James did die between the two census, and that death cert looks good but the address is bugging me as Mary Ann is still in Dock St in 1911. Perhaps he didn't die at home.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward/New_Dock_Street/132419/
Don't get put off by the numbers on the census, they are form number not house numbers as can be seen here, http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001395978/
Mary Ann is living in house number 30.
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Don't get too caught up with ages, death certs in particular are often incorrect but it's often the case that people simply didn't know their own age so all records must be considered to possibly have incorrect ages.
I completely agree with Sinann, ages on death certs is secondary information, same goes for census, the only primary 'birth' age is from a birth cert and the next best is the approximate birth year on a baptism.
My grandmother was the informant on her mothers death cert, she also organised the gravestone both say she was 85yrs old when died, looking at her marriage cert and all the census all give different ages, she was born before birth cert registration so the only record is her baptism record and that would be primary and meant she was 20 years younger than what is written on all the secondary records ........the reason I can only assume is that she married a man who was 30 yrs older than her, so lied about being older
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There is a marriage 1885 of Sarah McGreevy,25 Ship St. father Richard Master Mariner
A possible sister of James
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10872/5970857.pdf
Note the church is St. Malachy's, might prove useful
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Hi Sinann
Thank you I think this must be a sister of James as on the 1901 Census he has a niece living with him called Ester Ferman but this must be Feenan. She is 15 years old which would correlate with the marriage. I wonder what happened to his sister and her husband. Does "of Full Age" simply mean they were over 16 years old? I am going to try and find a birth record for Sarah to confirm. Thank you so much.
EMcG
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'Of full age' is 21 or older.
Ester Feenan in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000276294
Esther Feenan birth (1886)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02595/1958602.pdf
James Feenan (1887)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02552/1944247.pdf
Sarah Feenan (1889)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02488/1923211.pdf
Richard Feenan (1890)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02422/1902239.pdf
John Thomas Feenan (1891)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02381/1888428.pdf
Elizabeth Isabella Feenan (1893)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02296/1861281.pdf
Agnes Feenan birth (1894) & death (1895)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02253/1847496.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05944/4688852.pdf
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Sarah Ellen Feenan, age 31, married, wife of salesman, died of pneumonia in 1894-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05952/4691481.pdf
Sarah born c1863 so there will be no birth certificate.
James Feenan married (1896) Margaret Russell-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10487/5819313.pdf
Children: Peter (23 Feb.1897), Bridget (17 Aug.1899), Joseph (5 Aug.1900). Ann (8 July 1903), Margaret (15 June 1905), Josephine (8 Mar.1907), Patrick (12 Aug.1908), Michael (20 July 1912)
James & family in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Station_Road/231603
James in 1901- son James from 1st marriage here-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/London_Street/1211259
Some of the children from 1st marriage in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Downpatrick_Urban/The_Gullion/1228350
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EBMCG. can you contact me again with your contact number. Re The Vesta painting.
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Hello
Just spent the weekend on ancestry.co.uk and GRONI and I feel that I have traced my family on my dad's maternal side back to Richard McGreevy born in 1817- d. 1900. He is noted as father of the groom on my great great grandfather John McGreevy's marriage certificate. John Mc Greevy married Margaret Brunton on 29th November, 1873 in Belfast and was married from 22 Pilot Street. John Mc Greevy's occupation is noted as 'sailor' and Richard McGreevy is noted as 'sea captain' on the certificate. If this is correct, it would mean that Richard McGreevy is my great, great, great grandfather. Like you I have come to a stop because I would love to find his marriage and birth certificate. Would also love it if you would share anything you find and will too.
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Welcome to Rootschat :) Not sure if original poster had lost interest in tracing this family anymore since they never responded to last few posts here although they have been logged in since then.
Civil registration of births started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificate for Richard born c1817. He might also have married before 1845 (registration of non-Catholic marriages started)/1864 (registration of all marriages commenced). For earlier dates you'll need to search to see if any church records survive.
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Many thanks!
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There are strong indications that Richard McGreevey's wife was Sarah McGraw / McGrath and that he had a sister Ann Jane McGreevey.
The St. Malachy's church record version of the previously mentioned marriage of James Feenan and Sarah McGreevy on 22 July 1885 identified both parents of the bride, namely Richard and Sarah McGreevey of 25 Ship Street.
Then this from the Irish News and Belfast Morning Post of 29 October 1894:
FEENAN-October 27, at the residence of her father (Captain Richard McGreevy), 25 Ship Street, Sarah Ellen, the dearly beloved wife of James Feenan.- R.I.P. [Her remains will be removed from above address for interment in Greencastle Roman Catholic burying-ground, this day (Monday), 29th inst., at one o'clock. Friends will please accept this intimation. English, American and Australian papers please copy.]
When I checked Greencastle RC Graveyard inscriptions, I found this:
Erected by Richard McGreevy, in memory of his beloved wife Sarah McGreevy, who departed this life 4th August 1864, aged 37 years, also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909, and John McGreevy, who died 12th September 1963, also his wife Mary, who died 14th September 1963, RIP
Sarah McGreavey's 1864 civil death record shows that she died at 42 Pilot Street Belfast and identified her as the wife of Richard McGreavey (branch pilot), the informant was her 'sister-in-law' Ann Jane Madden of 17 Trafalgar Street Belfast. Note that an Ann Jane 'McGreary' (McGreavy?) married Michael Madden on 13 July 1847 in St. Patrick's RC Church Belfast.
A Sarah Ellen McGreavey was baptised on 25 August 1861 in St. Patrick's RC Church Belfast for parents Richard McGreavey and Sarah McGraw (right page, 5 lines up from bottom):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/190/mode/1up
For same named parents, the St. Patrick's register also shows a son John baptised on 2 February 1850 (right page, 17 lines down from top):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633209#page/175/mode/1up
There are also St. Patrick's baptisms for Sarah (1854) and Isabella (1860) listed under Richard McGreevy and Sarah McGrath (phonetically very similar if not identical). And a marriage in St. Patrick's for Richard McGreavy and Sarah McGrath on 4 May 1845.
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I'm not sure why the mother of this child Isabella read 'Isabella' rather than 'Sarah' McGrath:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03629/2340002.pdf
The child only lived one hour and her death was registered by her father Richard McGreevy, described as the captain of a tug steamer living at 45 Pilot Street. As previously indicated, Sarah McGreevy died just over 5 months later, perhaps tellingly, the cause of death was 'cancer of womb - one year'.
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... Sarah McGreavey's 1864 civil death record shows that she died at 42 Pilot Street Belfast and identified her as the wife of Richard McGreavey (pilot), the informant was her 'sister-in-law' Ann Jane Madden of 17 Trafalgar Street Belfast. Note that an Ann Jane 'McGreary' (McGreavy?) married Michael Madden on 13 July 1847 in St. Patrick's RC Church Belfast.
A marriage record for St. Peter's RC Church Belfast on 5 October 1882 shows a Michael Madden of Trafalgar Street marrying Elizabeth McGuckian, the groom's parents were recorded as Michael and Ann Jane Madden - this reads across to these folk in 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Moyola/142160/
Also, a possible death for Ann Jane - https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06049/4723582.pdf
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From the Irish News and Belfast Morning News of 31 August 1900:
McGREEVY - August 29, at his son's residence, 9 New Dock Street, Captain Richard McGreevy, aged 84 years. - R.I.P. [The remains of our beloved father will be removed for interment in Greencastle Burying-ground on tomorrow (Saturday), at 1.30 p.m. American papers please copy.]
JOHN MCGREEVY.
JAMES MCGREEVY.
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There's just a possibility that Richard McGreevy's father was also called Richard McGreevy, see what you think from the following. To recap, the Richard who married Sarah McGraw / McGrath in 1845 and had surviving offspring John, James, and Sarah Ellen, was born c. 1817 and would have therefore been around mid 20s when the following story was reported by the Northern Whig (Belfast) on 15 November 1842.
LOSS OF LIFE. - A PILOT AND THREE BOYS DROWNED. - On Wednesday afternoon, the 2d instant, Richard McGreevy, a branch pilot belonging to this port, left the quay, to meet the steamer Aurora, which had left Glasgow, that morning. His son, who is a supernumery pilot saw him about five o'clock, in the afternoon of the day in question, at which time they parted company - the son, with the intention of picking up some small craft, and the father, of proceeding, as it is reported, in quest of the steamer, which arrived in port, that night, without having McGreevy on board. His friends, not hearing of him or his comrades, began to entertain serious apprehensions of their safety ; and, on Friday morning, the yawl was discovered, bottom up, on the shore, near Islandmagee. All hopes of McGreevy and his companions having been saved, are now abandoned ; and various conjectures are entertained, respecting the cause of the accident. The general opinion is, that the yawl had been capsized, in a squall. Others suspected that the steamer might have come into collision with her. From the latter supposition, the friends of the unfortunate men were anxious to have an investigation ; and, accordingly, an examination of the Captain and crew of the Aurora took place, yesterday, in the Police-office, before Thomas Verner and R.D. Coulson, Esqrs., the result of which was, that, from the evidence produced, there were not the smallest grounds for attaching blame to either the Captain or crew of the Aurora ; nor was there the slightest reason to suppose that the yawl had been run down or struck by her. The boat is at present in Belfast, and has been examined by a great many persons ; and it is the universal belief, that the injury she has sustained was occasioned by her striking against the rocks, or on the beach, after she had been capsized, As respects McGreevy himself, we must say, that there was no better conducted pilot connected with this port. We lament to say, that he has left behind him a wife and a large family, who, we are informed, will be wholly dependent on the exertions of the son, to whom we have already referred, and who is a very well conducted young man. We trust that the Ballast Corporation will appoint him a branch pilot in the room of his unfortunate and lamented parent.
Rather frustrating that the son's name isn't mentioned...
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More St. Patrick's baptism possibilities for Richard and Sarah:
- 1 May 1848, Richard McGreavy baptised for parents Richard McGreavy and Sarah McGra (left page, 7th line down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633209#page/142/mode/1up
- 17 May 1856, Hugh McGraw McGreavy baptised for parents Richard McGreavy and Sarah McGraw (left page, 15th line down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/75/mode/1up
- 10 December 1857, James D. McGreevy baptised for parents Richard McGreevy and Sarah McGrath (left page, 16th line down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/110/mode/1up
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This is so interesting and ties in with what I have discovered. I didn't know the maiden name of my great, great, great grandmother Sarah and that Richard is in Greencastle cemetery with her. The incident you refer to is also reported in the Belfast Newsletter under deaths but looked it up on Ancestry.com and couldn't make out the details.
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... When I checked Greencastle RC Graveyard inscriptions, I found this:
Erected by Richard McGreevy, in memory of his beloved wife Sarah McGreevy, who departed this life 4th August 1864, aged 37 years, also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909, and John McGreevy, who died 12th September 1963, also his wife Mary, who died 14th September 1963, RIP ...
also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909 presumably was the man in the following 1909 death record, reported as the 51 year old husband of Mary Ann McGreevy of 41 Little George's Street, which reads across to the folk in the following 1901 census return (don't know why John's age is so 'out'):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05446/4523779.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Little_Georges/936599/
Widower John McGreevey, son of Richard McGreevey a pilot, married Mary Ann (nee Quinn) Cowden in St. Patrick's on 27 October 1901:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10324/5758466.pdf
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... Widower John McGreevey, son of Richard McGreevey a pilot, married Mary Ann (nee Quinn) Cowden in St. Patrick's on 27 October 1901:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10324/5758466.pdf
The address of widower John McGreevy in the above 1901 marriage registration was 35 N Andrew Street, which is the same address cited in the following death registration of 1899 for Margaret McGreevy 'Wife of John McGreevy Fireman':
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05807/4643771.pdf
Maybe this was Margaret Brompton (or variants Brunton, Bunting etc.)? The couple had a daughter in 1877 who could be the Annie shown in the (Reply #23) 1901 census return for 'house 41 in Little Georges' (unnamed at time of registration):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03001/2099922.pdf
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... When I checked Greencastle RC Graveyard inscriptions, I found this:
Erected by Richard McGreevy, in memory of his beloved wife Sarah McGreevy, who departed this life 4th August 1864, aged 37 years, also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909, and John McGreevy, who died 12th September 1963, also his wife Mary, who died 14th September 1963, RIP
Photo of the grave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162597049/sarah-mcgreevy
Note, in the photo, the more recent addition to the inscription, relating to this:
http://www.okanesfunerals.co.uk/notices/4174
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Hi I have been reading this thread with great interest it ties in with some information i have managed to trace for my McGreevys all living in the Docks at this time. The thing thats confusing me is the James McGreevy i have thats son of Richard McGreevy is born abt 1843 and is married to an Elizabeth Phillips. They had 7 children one being my great great granda Thomas. Would love some help in finding out if its the same Richard Sea Captain Thankyou
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
The thing thats confusing me is the James McGreevy i have thats son of Richard McGreevy is born abt 1843 and is married to an Elizabeth Phillips. They had 7 children one being my great great granda Thomas. Would love some help in finding out if its the same Richard Sea Captain
Here's the marriage in 1861, with his surname spelt as McGrievey.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09604/5482769.pdf
His father is Richard, who is a pilot (of a tug or pilot boat?)
Birth of Richard McGreevy in 1867 #165
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03501/2286769.pdf
KG
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Thankyou for your reply. Yes i found all that stuff im just wondering if the James D McGreevy born to Sarah McGrath and Richard is actually John? He seems to be referred to as J McGreevy fireman also. The James married to Elizabeth Phillips seems to have a birthdate of 1843 and i cant seem to find a baptism record referring to this date but strong indications that his father is the Richard McGreevy other posters are talking about. Sorry if this sounds confusing my heads melted trying to work it out lol
And if Richard is this James father has anyone found a baptism record for him yet? As i would love to try and get back abit further
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Hi,
Not sure if anyone is still researching. I believe Richard McGreevy & Sarah McGrath are my 4G grandparents.
Son John c1850 - 1909 who married Margaret Brunton in 1873 Belfast.
Had 11 Children (found via irishgeaneology)
Their son Thomas McGreevy c1887 married Jeaneatte Moane.
Daughter Annie b1914 married John Keenan.
I have Richard bc1825, parents Cornelius McGreevey & Anna/Nancy Timon.
I have dna matches on both Moane & McGreevey lines but still trying to confirm information. I would love to have confirmations to add to my tree if anyone would like to help out. My Irish branch of my tree has only relied on dna matches & Irishgeneaology records.
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Hi yes I’m still
tracing this line. My great x3 grandfather James is Johns brother. If you read my other threads it explains my mystery. I know of another girl tracing the line you are used f John. Did you find Richards birth certificate? Was he born in the docks or elsewhere? I always thought his dad was called Richard too
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... When I checked Greencastle RC Graveyard inscriptions, I found this:
Erected by Richard McGreevy, in memory of his beloved wife Sarah McGreevy, who departed this life 4th August 1864, aged 37 years, also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909, and John McGreevy, who died 12th September 1963, also his wife Mary, who died 14th September 1963, RIP ...
also John McGreey [sic], who died 31st October 1909 presumably was the man in the following 1909 death record, reported as the 51 year old husband of Mary Ann McGreevy of 41 Little George's Street, which reads across to the folk in the following 1901 census return (don't know why John's age is so 'out'):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05446/4523779.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Little_Georges/936599/
Widower John McGreevey, son of Richard McGreevey a pilot, married Mary Ann (nee Quinn) Cowden in St. Patrick's on 27 October 1901:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10324/5758466.pdf
Hi, I too have been doing research on the McGreevy clan as part of an outlying branch of my tree and I believe I can clear up some of the confusion surrounding this particular branch and the ages of some of the members. The 1901 census listed above contains the record for Mary Ann Cowden, John and Annie McGreevy. This is March 1901, a year after John McGreevy married Anne Rice and their first born child Henry McGreevy would be born at this address ( 41 Little Georges St.) on April 17 1901. John was the son of John McGreevy ( who died 1909 and is memorialised on the headstone in Greencastle cemetery ) and this is the John who married Mary Ann Cowden ( nee Quinn) the widow from the census later that year in October of 1901. The John from the census died in October 1917 during the war and is buried at Tower Hill Memorial in the UK.
There is definitely some repetition in this family tree with a lot of John's, James', Richards, Anne's being repeated throughout time and across family groups and it is easy to get them mixed up and I have done so myself a few times before getting them straightened out. Thanks for finding this 1901 census as I hadn't located it because of the misspelling of the surname but it slots in nicely now and corroborates other bits of information which I did have already.
So to reiterate, Mary A Cowden was the future stepmother to the John McGreevy in the census and John was married to the Annie McGreevy listed there ( Annie was not the daughter of another McGreevy as a later reply believed).
If anybody has any questions about any other McGreevy I would be happy to help out.
Garrett