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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: ianhunter on Tuesday 15 August 17 18:09 BST (UK)
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Hi,
There are some posts about Stratfords on this site already. I am interested in a few generation back further than these.
In Drumlummon graveyard, there is an old grave that my grandfather (when he was alive) said we were related to. I believe I have calculated how, but I am at a blocker - I cannot get any information about these ancestors apart from this grave.
The grave has a Stratford Crest on it - A lion rampant on top of a few horizontal lines contained within a shield. Above the shield is an armoured arm bearing a sword. This matches up with the general Stratford coat of arms:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratford_family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratford_family).
The grave reads:
"Here lies the body of Thomas Stratford of Carrick, County Cavan, who departed this life 16 day of April 1777 , also, Elizabeth, his wife, who departed this life, 1 day of August 1765 and Thomas Stratford, their grandson, who
departed this life, 21 May 1779 . Though shalt esteem to their memories."
So from here, I have a rough tree:
Thomas Stratford 'of Carrick' (before 1737 - 1777) = Elizabeth ? (Presumably a similarish birth - 1765)
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Unknown Stratford (I have some notes saying this may be a William, but I am not 100% confident)
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Thomas Stratford (? - 1779)
The older Thomas Stratford seems to be in the right timeframe enough to be recorded with the more successful Stratfords such as the Earls of Aldborough, However I cannot find anything on him at all.
The same can be said for the Elizabeth and the later Thomas Stratford.
Does anyone have any ideas where I could look for more clues?
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If you go to www.sources.nli.ie and just type in Stratford you get many search returns. I can not look right now, but maybe you will find a Pedigree??
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http://sources.nli.ie/
The link above wouldn't work for me, not sure if the one I posted goes exactly where hallmark intended.
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http://sources.nli.ie/
The link above wouldn't work for me, not sure if the one I posted goes exactly where hallmark intended.
Thanks, I was doing it on mobile so couldn't cut/paste the link...
http://sources.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=Stratford&type=AllFields&submit=FIND
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Thanks for the link, I can't see anything here for my Stratford relative - but it should be useful for other branches of my tree.
Are there any other places I could look for info on Cavan residents in the mid-1700s?
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Thanks for the link, I can't see anything here for my Stratford relative - but it should be useful for other branches of my tree.
Are there any other places I could look for info on Cavan residents in the mid-1700s?
Next place I would look is Nick Reddan's Registry of Deeds.
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DRUMLUMMON CHURCHYARD, FINNEA, COUNTY WESTMEATH, IRELAND.
CHURCH OF IRELAND.
Hear lies the body of Thomas Stratford of Carrick, County Cavan, who departed
this life 16 day of April 1777 , also, Elizabeth, his wife, who departed this
life, 1 day of August 1765 , and, Thomas Stratford, their grandson, who
departed this life, 21 May 17779 . Though shalt esteem to their memories.
Here lieth the body of Abigail Stratford of Togher, who departed this life, 25
of April 1782, aged, 80 years.
Sacred to the memory of, Robert Stratford Esq., as whose many virtues as a
husband, a father, a friend will outlive this memorial of him. He died, on 8
April 1862, aged 57 years, also the memory of his beloved wife, whose loss as a
mother, benefactress and friend, will be long and deeply felt by all those who
can appreciate true virtue and philanthropy. She departed this life on the 15
march 1841, aged, 53.
Erected by his wife, Anne Staford and his son, Robert, in 1826.
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/westmeath/cemeteries/drumlummon.txt
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Lineage from Wills....
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another....
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@hallmark
This looks incredibly promising! Thanks for digging up the wills.
Where did you find them? I'd love to try and get a higher quality scan if I can
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The first tree definitely contains my ancestors. :)
Any idea how the two trees relate? If I could link them, I'd be able to assert that my Stratfords were related to the Stratford-Aldboroughs at Baltinglass, which have a lot of other researchers investigating them!
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On Nick reddan's site you have the likes of Benjamin O'Neal Earl of ALDBOROUGH as administrator of estate of Martha Stratford, his said wife in 1817, so one would need to check what that Will contains at The Registry of Will and Deeds in Dublin!
There may have been a Marriage Agreement registered too!!
Plus the stuff at NLI on the link I posted....
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I see BURTON Martha :ors Stratford, late wife of said Earl of Aldborough on Nick's site and STRATFORD Mason as heir of said Martha Stratford
Vol 837
Page 184
Memorial 562321
on LDS Film https://familysearch.org/search/film/008092841?cat=185720&i=-1
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I went to the NLI, unfortunately a lot of the interesting docs are stored up in Belfast, so I will have to organize a trip up there.
One other thing of interest is the crest on the graves at Drumlummon, they're definitely Stratford from their design - but I was not able to find any registration of arms. Have been trying to compare them to the other Stratford crests around but with little success
(https://imgur.com/7HgdvaB.png)