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Any information on Robert Overall born circa 1881 in Leadgate, County Durham. Only trace I can find is the 1901 census showing him residing in Consett County Durham. Cannot find any birth baptism marriage or death record including a search of Leadgate parish records
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Hi is this the Robert you have in 1901?
Joseph Overall 1850 occ Scavenger b Finchingfield Essex
Eliza 1854 b Essex
William 1871 b Essex
John 1876 b Leadgate
George 1878 b Leadgate
Robert 1881 b Leadgate
Arthur 1883 b Leadgate
Census ref RG13/4669/114/33
Keyboard86
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Overall family on the 1891 but no Robert -
Joseph Overal Head 41 Labourer On Railway b. Essex
Eliza Overal Wife 38 b. Essex
William Overal 20 Railway Shunter b. Essex
John Overal 15 Assistant Fireman b. Durham
George Overal 13 Labourer At Coke Ovens b. Durham
Albert Overal 11 Scholar b. Durham
Arthur Overal 8 Scholar b. Durham
RG12 Piece 4090 Folio 15 Page 22
Wonder if he could be Albert? Or perhaps Robert was 'adopted'
JJ
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And 1881
Leadgate
Joseph 29 platelayer bn Finchingfield Essex
Eliza 29 bn Finchingfield
William 10 bn Finch'd
John 6
George 3
Albert 8mths bn Iveston Durham
couple of boarders
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George Overall 32 brother bn Finch'd
Are you sure the "Robert" on 1901 isn't an Albert?
(modified to add: just looked at 1901 image and it is clearly Robert. I guess the enumerator misread the notes when he wrote up the schedule)
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I too wonder if he was Albert in the 1881 and 1891 censuses. Just searching for Alberts born in Lanchester I can see an Albert Overn born in 1880 - mother's maiden name on the groindex is given as Herrington ( there is a Thomas George Overall b 1877 in Lanchester with mmn given as Errington -coincidence?).
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That ties in with Joseph Overall's marriage to Eliza Harrington June qtr 1874 Durham RD
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1883 June qtr
OVERIN Arthur Lanchester 10a 338 mmn Errington
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If they married 1874 in Durham, then William (bn Finch'd) was born well before the marriage.
Fits well with 1871:
Finchingfield
George Overall 24 ag lab
Sarah 21 wife
Eunice dtr 8mths
Eliza Harrington 19 unm visitor
William J 4 mths visitors son
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Hi in 1871 an Eliza HARRINGTON 19 and a William J Harrington 0 are visitors to a George/Sarah Overall
Census ref RG10/1700/16/24
Keyboard86
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Only 3 Overall names on Durham Records Online. Free Index.
Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1915 Joseph Overall abt 1849 Sydney House, Consett
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Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1918 Eliza Overall abt 1853 Sydney House, Delves Lane
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Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1940 Maureen Ann Overall abt 1939 3 North View, Blackhill
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Admin for an Albert Overal in 1948 (died 24 Dec 1947) address Sydney House,Delves Lane, Consett. Admin to Arthur Overall. You should be able to locate him in the 1939 register for his date of birth.
William
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Hi I can see a death of an Arthur Overal Dec qtr 1906 Lanchester aged 23, can anybody spot a birth of a "Lizzie" Overall/Overal c 1896 Lanchester
Keyboard86
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??? I can see also a birth registration of an Albert Overal Sept qtr 1920 Lanchester 10a 681 mmn Harrington, what is it with the Overall's and Harringtons?
Keyboard86
EDIT An Albert Overal b 2nd June 1920 died June 1983 Durham Northern
Possibly married a Lilian Craig 1940
An Albert Overall married an Edith F Harrington Sept qtr 1914 Braintree 4a 1825?
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Some records are showing as Overall, others as Overal.
In addition to the records mentioned by Barryd, Durham Records Online has 8 records from the cemetry register for the surname Overal - the National Burial Index shows that they are all buried in Blackhill Cemetry.They include Joseph( born and died 1889 - groindex again gives mmn as Herrington), Edith Florence (b 1895 died 1937) and Albert (b 1880 died 1947). This would suggest, Keyboard 86, that the Braintree marriage you located may be the correct one.
William
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Hi again, so we have an Arthur Overal death 1906 aged 23 so who was the Arthur who administered the estate of Albert in 1947?
Keyboard86
And who was " Lizzie" Overal/l born c 1896 Lanchester?
Arthur Overal could be the one b 1915 Lanchester mmn Harrington, possibly married a Vera/Veronica Mcelhone Sept qtr 1939 West Hartlepool
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Hi all
I take your point about Robert possibly being Albert it would explain the absence of any other records.
My father was Albert Overal b 1920 married to Lilian Craig.
Grandfather was Albert Overal(l) b 1880 married to Edith Florence Harrington.
Great Grandfather was Joseph O married to Eliza Harrington.
The Arthur who administered the will of Albert was my father's brother b 1915 and married to Vera Mcelhone.
I also have not found a birth record for Lizzie (Elizabeth) but she did witness one of the Overal marriages. She also married a Thompson and had 2 children but died shortly after the birth of the second child.
I will follow up the possibility that Robert is in fact Albert.
Thank you to everyone for there prompt replies.
The Overalls and Harrington's originate from Finchingfield Essex and I have tracked back to 1720s.
David
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Hi again, an Elizabeth Overall married a William H Thompson June qtr 1919 Lanchester, he looks to have remarried in 1923 to an Annie B Jenkinson .
Keyboard86