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Title: Maria Stacd
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 00:05 BST (UK)
Maria Stace illegitimate daughter of Samuel Stace and Mary Hutchinson born c 1805 Ewhurst she married a Timothy Baker 1825 Ewhurst would like more info on her please
Thanks kate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 20 August 17 00:18 BST (UK)
Same question as on your Hannah Stace post (Hannah born 1814)

Why do you think Maria was illegitimate?

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she married a Timothy Baker 1825 Ewhurst would like more info on her please

Have you looked for her on the 1841/1851 censuses?
Title: Re: Maria Stace
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 00:22 BST (UK)
I have all the info on her birth being illegitimate also my 5x grandmother Mary was married at the time to George Branscombe Kate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 20 August 17 00:25 BST (UK)
So Mary was Brancsombe at the time of the birth - not Hutchinson

Have you looked for Maria on the 1841/51 censuses
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 00:27 BST (UK)
haven't had any luck yes sorry Mary was Mary Branscombe Kate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 20 August 17 00:34 BST (UK)
The 1841 entry is correctly spelt and the family are in Ewhurst
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 00:50 BST (UK)
yes have found Maria through to the 1871 census thanksKate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 20 August 17 00:58 BST (UK)
Maria Stace, baptized 5 January 1806, Ewhurst
Parents John + Sarah

No Samuel.
Title: Re: Maria Stace
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 01:01 BST (UK)
I have found a Hannah Maria Stace better do some more searching Many thanks Kate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 20 August 17 01:11 BST (UK)
The 1841 entry is correctly spelt and the family are in Ewhurst

Sarah Stace is with the Bakers in 1841. That's Timothy, Maria and family.
Most likely Maria's mother
Also there are Walter Stace, Charlotte Stace. I think two more children of John + Sarah.

Kate is mixing all these people up. They have no connection to Mary Branscombe.
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 20 August 17 01:12 BST (UK)
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I have all the info on her birth being illegitimate also my 5x grandmother Mary was married at the time to George Branscombe Kate

If Maria was born 1805 - then Mary Hutchinson was not married to George Branscombe at that time

See Family Search

Name    George Branscombe
Spouse's Name    Mary Hutchinson
Event Date    03 Aug 1808
Event Place    Hastings, All Saints, Sussex, England

You are researching the wrong parents
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 20 August 17 01:14 BST (UK)
Name    George Branscombe
Spouse's Name    Mary Hutchinson
Event Date    03 Aug 1808
Event Place    Hastings, All Saints, Sussex, England

That settles it! Great find.
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: kiwikate on Sunday 20 August 17 04:20 BST (UK)
Yes I knew Maria was born before Mary Married George Branscombe  a lot of my information comes from church records and a family member in East Sussex Kate
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: sillgen on Sunday 20 August 17 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi Kate,
The marriage in 1825 gives her name as Mary but no further details.  Census records show that she is much younger than Timothy.   The fact that Sarah Stace is with them in 1841 would imply that she is Maria's mother as CaroleW has said.  Your informant may have got it wrong so worth double checking.
For future reference it would help us avoid duplication if you could tell us what you already know in your initial request. 
Membership of the Sussex Family History Group might help you a lot as they have online records for members.
Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 20 August 17 09:19 BST (UK)
Bastardy Order on Samuel Stace, from 1820
indexed on The Keep
http://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PAR367_34_5_36

If you want to register for free on FamilySearch you can see the original here
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1KS-BJ?i=226&cat=1473797

But, as I have said, I do not believe that Samuel Stace of Hastings is connected to Maria and Hannah.

Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: Annette7 on Sunday 20 August 17 09:40 BST (UK)
As Maria Stace is the focus of this thread you are presumably directly linked to her and that she married Timothy Baker in 1825.

Again, as clearly stated already, Maria was the dau. of John Stace and wife Sarah and indeed her mother and siblings are living with the Baker's in 1841 census so finding it hard to comprehend why you are mentioning these other people who are nothing to do with Maria herself directly.

Annette 

Title: Re: Maria Stacd
Post by: kiwikate on Monday 21 August 17 02:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the feedback I will double check re Maria as she was new to me,as for Hannah Stace I hope to get some help from sussex as a family member is going back to view records
Thanks Kate