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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Lisajb on Sunday 20 August 17 15:20 BST (UK)
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Before I go completely mad! I have very little to go on.
Williams birth is registered Dec quarter 1868, parents are William and Harriet, nee Thomas.
He is on the 1871 census as William R (no idea what the R stands for, I've never been able to turn up a baptism record for either William or sisters Kate, Mary or Margaret)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5B3-1FF
1881 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-VZ22 - again as William R
And finally 1891 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WBWD-92M
After that, I lose him. There are a few William Harvey's on subsequent census records, but I'm not convinced that are any are him. I've no idea whether he married (quite a few William Harvey marriage records, but again not sure whether any are the right William. Or whether he left the country.
Help!
Thanks
Lisa
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? The only clue is William's occupation: i.e. Clicker B
Clicker:
A: Foreman Printer, who looked after Typegraphy and layout
B: Shoemaker - cut leather
C: The Servant of a Salesman who stood at the door to invite in customers.
As his sisters were shoe machinists - William must have cut leather
? When the sister's married: who were the witnesses ? as his mother by then was a Widow
? either William, or his sister would be responsible for looking after Harriet
1891 Census St George
27 Reformatory Road
HARVEY
Harriet - 60 - born Carmarthenshire
William 22 - Clicker, born St George, Gloucestershire
Kate - 20 - Shoe Machinist - born St George
Margaret 18 - ditto
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Ancestry has:
William Robert HARVEY - christened: 15 March 1868 - Whitfield Tabernacle Independent Kingswood by Bristol (no parents given) will check for sisters.
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? There is a William Robert HARVEY aged 44 on the 1911 census in Bristol (a Brush Maker) with his family (but I don't think this is the correct family - from looking at a tree on Ancestry. His baptism is also on Ancestry - but a few months later.
William Robert HARVEY : 26 July 1868, Bristol ST Mary Redcliffe, parents: Robert & Elizabeth Ann HARVEY
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The Wiiliam Robert Harvey in the 1911 Census could be the William Robert baptised St Mary Redcliffe 26 July 1868 parents Robert and Elizabeth Ann. In which case he's not the chap we are after.
Emeltom
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Clicker B is likely to be Boot Clicker?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_and_shoe_clicker
Giggsy
There were Boot and Shoemakers in the St Phillips area of Bristol, which is where the Tanneries were.
May be worth further research?
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I did consider the brush maker, but researching the marriage gave that Williams father as Robert Harvey.
Mother Harriet dies in 1892.
I've just turned up a baptism for Kate at Two Mile Hill, Kingswood - parents Harriet and William.
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Assume the baptism of William Robert HARVEY in 1868 at Whitfield Tabernacle - Kingswood (same area) is the correct William.
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Dates a bit off though, if his birth is registered Dec qtr 1868 - it would have been an extremely late registration!
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GRO (will check for others)
HARVEY William: 1868 D Qtr : Clifton, mother's maiden name: THOMAS
HARVEY Mary Jane: 1867 - Clifton, mother's maiden name: THOMAS
HARVEY Kate: 1870 - etc: mother's maiden name: THOMAS
HARVEY Margaret Georgina: 1873 etc. mother's maiden name: THOMAS
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Dates a bit off though, if his birth is registered Dec qtr 1868 - it would have been an extremely late registration!
1871 census gives William's age as 2 and a half, so born Sept/ Oct in 1868, so not March baptism
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It doesn't get any easier does it? ???
Puzzled why there's only a baptism for Kate out of the 4....
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?
Ancestry
UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioners
Solder Service Record
William HARVEY
Age 23
Birth date: 1868
Birth place: St George Glos
Service Start Date: 1891
Regiment: 15th Hussars
Reg. No. 2921
Attestation Papers: Yes
(unfortunately cannot open the whole document)
Looking at the 15th Hussars info on the 'net'
Regimental No. 2814 - enlisted: 1 March 1891
Regiment No. 3054 - enlisted: 26 July 1892
Therefore 240 people in one year:
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That's interesting, although Ancestry have it tied up with fold3, so wanting more money to view it.
Familysearch seem to have a similar record although the image is unavailable, I should try again later, apparently.
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FindMyPast has same record, it comes up on a free search. If you don't have a sub, many libraries have access.
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I'm unsure whether my local library does, their website wasn't particularly helpful. May just have to take a months sub, sure I can use it!
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My local library seems to be closed until early September, so it will have to be a months sub.
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A very long shot but a William Harvey married in Farnham district in 1899. One possible bride is Emma Wells. Farnham district covers Aldershot and Frimley.
There seems to be a good candidate for the couple in 1911.
Don't forget that if William was born in Autumn 1868, he would not have had his birthday by census day, so his year of birth would calculate as 1869.
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Same couple in sandhurst in 1901, but his age is a bit out
Piece: 1164 Folio: 10 Page Number: 10
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Same couple in sandhurst in 1901, but his age is a bit out
Piece: 1164 Folio: 10 Page Number: 10
Lily Villa sounds quite picturesque, even if they are next door to the Jolly Farmer pub!
Thanks to all for your efforts. I think I really do need to see the Chelsea pensioner record.
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Just wanted to report, after deciding to spend £9.95 on a months find my past sub, the military record would appear to be our man - occupation is given as clicker, and mother Harriet Harvey is listed.
He does seem to have had quite a few sprains and damaged ligaments and was discharged unfit in March 1900.
Thanks to everyone for their help.