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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: richardanthony on Tuesday 22 August 17 16:02 BST (UK)
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Looking for a marriage of Samuel Pudney born 1801 halstead essex to a susannah [possibly] around that area. Doea anyone have ERO access?
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From freereg.org.uk
County Essex
Place (link for place information) Halstead
Church name St Andrew
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 252
Marriage date 31 Oct 1819
Groom forename Samuel
Groom surname PUDNEY
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Burnham, Essex
Bride forename Susanna
Bride surname BROWN
Bride condition Spinster
Witness Hannah BROWN
Witness John WOOD
Register note Both used mark. Seax DP 96-1-16
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The thing that put me off this one was that his abode was Burnham essex but he was from Halstead. I suppose he could have been working there.
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What makes you think he was born in Halstead?
Mark
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A very large number of baptisms at Halstead, 15 April 1800
Including Samuel, Son of John + Mary Pudney
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLX-8S9?i=1763&cat=494176
(in the first column)
This image is a continuation from the previous page. Very large!
BT of the marriage Mark found
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLX-8DN?i=2051&cat=494176
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The vicar at Halstead had a habit of doing mass baptisms, usually at Easter, I think I once saw close to 200 on 1 day!
Mark
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Pudney is a common name around that part of Essex, I believe there were Pudneys in the neighbouring villages Greenstead Green and Gosfield.
Mark
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yes he was son of john and mary. I think the burnham pudneys are a different strain but a coincidence the marriage was in halstead?
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Well your man would be quite young for that marriage, but not impossibly.
Really you need to tell us a little more about Samuel and Susannah, and if they had any children.
John
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If you're not certain of your Samuel's birth, do you have him on any census records from 1851? This Might give children's birth places and possibly his wife's name, as you said he was 'possibly' married to a Susanna?
What do you know for certain that we can work backwards from?
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Baptism at Halstead, 13 Aug 1820
James
Son of Samuel + Susanna Pudney
abode Halstead
father a Husbandman
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLX-8FJ?i=2096&cat=494176
Might tie in with an 1841 census possibility in Halstead
Edited for father's name!
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So James is a definite ... do you have him on census records to confirm the c1821 halstead birth? What makes you certain that this baptism is your James?
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There's a Samuel Pudney, age 50, widower,visiting a George Wiffen and wife Hannah on the 1851 Census.
There's a 30 year old Samuel Pudney with James and Eph(r)aim on the 1841 Census.
There were baptisms of an Ephraim Pudney in 1823 and 1826 - parents Samuel and Susanna.
There's an 1823 death for an Ephraim Pudney.
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Samuel Pudney is on the 1881 census living in Friars Street Sudbury with granddaughter Caroline Allison and her family. The census states that Samuel was born 1800 at Greenstead Green.
Most folk in Greenstead Green born pre circa 1840 seem to have used St Andrew Halstead for their baptisms. Samuel died in 1883 in Sudbury. Caroline appears to be the daughter of the aforementioned Ephraim.
Mike
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FreeREG has these Baptisms to SAMUEL/SUSANNA
JAMES 13 Aug 1820
EPHRAIM 22 March 1823, buried 19 May 1823, infant
EPHRAIM 28 March 1826
WILLIAM 4 Oct 1829, buried 15 Oct 1829, infant
As jonw65 stated Samuels Occp is Husbandman.
Burial of a JAMES Pudney 4 July 1841 age 41
(FreeREG)
1841 Census on the same page as Samuel/James/Ephraim is a JOHN Pudney age 80 (1761)
Mary Pudney age 40 in Household + Keziah Goodey and child
John Pudney was buried 17 Oct 1841 age 81**
(FreeREG)
This may be Susannahs Death Reg Gro Index, it would make her much older than Samuel.;
PUDNEY, SUSAN, age 50***
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in HALSTED UNION Volume 12 Page 59
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1851 in Halstead we have;
Mary Pudney, 63, Head, Widow, Pauper, born Halstead
Kezia Goody, 35, Lodger, Widow, Silk Winder, born Halstead
Jane Goody, 10
Elizabeth Goody, 6
Hannah Goody, 1
From Hannahs Birth Reg her Mother seems to be nee WARNER
Mary may be a Son of Johns Widow