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Title: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: Kate Hazelwood on Tuesday 22 August 17 22:57 BST (UK)
SJ Cox was my grandfather. He also had a sister and they lived in the Longhope/Huntley/Mayhill area. There is a rumour that his father ended his days in a secure unit after killing his mother. The last person living who knew any detail has long passed. Does anyone know anything?

My grandfather would have been born in the early 1910's I think and his siblings were older.

TIA
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:03 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

So that we can get a fix on the right family, is your grandfather likely to be the Sidney James Cox born 28 Feb 1916 whose death was registered Nov 1992 in the Forest of Dean district?
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:06 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too

Births March qtr 1916 
 
Sidney J Cox - mothers maiden name    Dawes    Westbury on Severn    6a   438
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:09 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for his parents

Marriages March qtr 1911 
Sidney E Cox        Westbury.S.    6a   350    
Charlotte   Dawes     
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: groom on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:11 BST (UK)
If that's the family there is a younger brother

Births Dec 1919 
Cox    Frederick    Dawes    Westbury S.    6a   541

Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:12 BST (UK)
Older siblings:

Elsie M Cox, mmn Dawes, Jun qtr 1911 Westbury on Severn
Charles H Cox, mmn Dawe, Dec qtr 1913 Westbury on Severn
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:14 BST (UK)
Death of Charlotte Cox aged 53, Jun qtr 1936 Westbury on Severn.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:15 BST (UK)
And another younger brother Albert R born 1921
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:20 BST (UK)
Sidney was born 1870

Births December qtr 1870   
Sidney Evan Cox    Westbury S    6a   224
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:21 BST (UK)
Death of Charlotte Cox aged 53, Jun qtr 1936 Westbury on Severn.

Charlotte's funeral was reported in The Gloucester Citizen of April 23, 1936.

Charlotte was "of School House, Longhope".  Her funeral service was held at Zion Baptist Church, Longhope.  Principal mourners included Miss E Cox (daughter), Messrs C Cox, S Cox and Albert Cox (sons), and Mr J Dawes and daughter.

There is no mention of Charlotte's husband or of the circumstances of her death.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:22 BST (UK)
There was a case in 1935 of Sidney Evan Cox for the attempted murder of his wife Charlotte - witnessed by their daughter.

The story appeared in the Gloucester Journal 5 October 1935.

Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:22 BST (UK)
The only Sidney E Cox death was this one

Sidney E Cox aged 75 June qtr 1947  Windsor 6a 158
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:24 BST (UK)

He was found guilty and insane in October 1935 and ordered to be detained during his Majesty's pleasure.

Claire
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:26 BST (UK)

He was found guilty and insane in October 1935 and ordered to be detained during his Majesty's pleasure.

Claire

Ah yes.  He had cut Charlotte's throat with a razor on 6 September 1935, causing serious injuries including to the jugular vein.

Their daughter Elsie had come into the room while the attack was taking place and hit her father with a spade, knocking him out.

I can't see any indication of whether the attack contributed to Charlotte's death in the spring of 1936.  The newspaper reports from 1935 show that she suffered serious blood loss but that her wounds healed sufficiently for her to be discharged home from Dilke Memorial Hospital.  She was not well enough, however, to give evidence before the magistrates.  She also suffered from chronic rheumatoid arthritis and serious degeneration of the heart (her doctor's evidence referred to her "periodic heart attacks").
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:29 BST (UK)
Sidney Evan Cox was detained in Broadmoor Asylum.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: groom on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:29 BST (UK)
Removed as I see avm beat me to it.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 August 17 23:38 BST (UK)
Quote
The only Sidney E Cox death was this one

Sidney E Cox aged 75 June qtr 1947  Windsor 6a 158

Broadmoor is in Berkshire so this would seem to be the right death
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 23 August 17 00:03 BST (UK)
And another younger brother Albert R born 1921

Albert Reginald Cox born 24 March 1921 died Dec qtr 1974 Forest of Dean.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 23 August 17 00:08 BST (UK)
Elsie M Cox married Albert Thomas John Hardwick in 1937.  He died in Gloucester in 1979 and there is a likely death there for Elsie in 1968.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 23 August 17 00:11 BST (UK)
Info about how to access Broadmoor archives can be found here http://www.berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk/albums/broadmoor/
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 23 August 17 09:45 BST (UK)

Ancestry:

Probate

COX Charlotte of The School House, Hope Hill, Longhope, Gloucestershire, (wife of Sidney Evan COX) - died 19 April 1936 (with Will) 22 November  - Gloucestershire : to Charles Henry COX, Bricklayer, and Sidney James COX, Lorry Driver.  Effects £330.
Title: Re: Parents of Sidney James Cox and Charlie Cox. Family secret
Post by: Kate Hazelwood on Thursday 24 August 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much!! To finally be able to put the pieces together is amazing! Definitely the right family. Now feel inspired to search more