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Title: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: Yvie Tree on Friday 25 August 17 13:11 BST (UK)
Hello,

I've been puzzling over my 4xgr-grandmother Ellen Tevenan for several years now. If anything, I'd simply like to pinpoint the county that she heiled from.

Here's what I have to go on....

1851 Manchester, England census -
 
- Ellen Tevenan b1801 Ireland, listed married, but then widowed in 1861 census
-- Catherine b1826 Ireland
-- James b1828 Ireland marries Bridget Tevening b1836 Ireland
-- Ellen b1832 Ireland (my 3xgr-grandmother) marries Patrick Fahey/Foy b1825 Ireland. Ellen lists John Tevenan as her father on marriage certificate.
-- Anne b1834 Ireland

I've checked the GV but they had probably left Ireland during the famine, so pre-GV.
I've checked FamilySearch and the IrishGenealogy site Church records, again, no matches are coming up.

So a bit stumped. It seems an obscure surname, are there any Tevenan family tree researchers out there?  ;D

Many thanks, Yvie
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 14:50 BST (UK)
1901 Census has Galway returns only!!   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kl8/

Possible clues??
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: Yvie Tree on Friday 25 August 17 14:59 BST (UK)
Quote from: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 14:50 BST (UK)
1901 Census has Galway returns only!!   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kl8/

Aha. That seems a very strong hint indeed!! Though it's fifty years apart from my relatives....is it safe to assume they are the same family?
And I wonder if there is any way of linking back/forward to them in 1901....

Thank you, for now I'm very happy with a fairly strong County Galway link for this uncommon surname.  ;D
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 15:05 BST (UK)
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1082  would be the Parish (I think!!).....
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 15:13 BST (UK)
It is not safe to assume anything, but you have a few birth years and there is a basic Filter there for Baptisms and Year....

Plus it might be a Red herring..... ( and they eat them in Galway!!  ;D  )
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: Yvie Tree on Friday 25 August 17 15:29 BST (UK)
Quote from: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 15:13 BST (UK)
Plus it might be a Red herring..... ( and they eat them in Galway!!  ;D  )

Am on the case, red herrings or not! Thank you :)
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 16:07 BST (UK)
Galway seems to be the source for many trees on Ancestry....  How accurate they are I do not know.

http://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?uidh=000&rank=1&new=1&so=3&msT=1&gsln=Tevenen&gss=angs-d&MSAV=1&cp=0&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&db=pubmembertrees&sbo=t&gsbco=Sweden&gl=&gst=&hc=20&fh=220&pgoff=11&noredir=true
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 August 17 16:23 BST (UK)
".....wonder if there is any way of linking back/forward to them in 1901...."

Irishgenealogy Birth, Marriage and Death results for Tevenan 1800s might join some of the dots on 1901 Census  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01klf/

Glenamaddy Reg Office would be same area
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: conahy calling on Friday 25 August 17 19:33 BST (UK)
https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=tivnan

Link with distribution of Tivnan surname,  possibly a variant spelling

Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 26 August 17 08:42 BST (UK)
Quote from: conahy calling on Friday 25 August 17 19:33 BST (UK)
https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=tivnan

Link with distribution of Tivnan surname,  possibly a variant spelling



Nice one.... yes variations in spellings have to be considered too. Luckily they seem to be confined to a small area of Ireland, as a starting point!!
Title: Re: TEVENAN surname origin early 1800s
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 27 August 17 19:02 BST (UK)
from http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Tevenan&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search
1827 Tevenan   Luke      Derreen   Kilkerrin      Galway   1827
had 20 irish acres not good pasture

from http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php Griffiths  Valuation
and http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
1855  Tivnan        Patrick   Cloonkeen   Dunmore     Galway map ref 1   32
1856 Tevenan   William   Liskea      Templetogher    Galway
map ref 13:14 has 2 acres and modest 5 shillings pa valued house
1856  Tivnan       Sarah      BRIERFORT   Templetogher    Galway
1856 Tevenan   John      Dunlo Hill   Kilcloony      Galway
map ref 42  9 modest 5 shillings pa valued house

however this Tivnan spelling is more Sligo area in the titheswebsite above
Surname   Forename   Townland/Street   Parish   County   Year
Tivnan   James   Breaghvey   Ahamlish   Sligo   1826-1836
Tivnan   James   Stradeevough   Ahamlish   Sligo   1826-1836
Tivnan   James   Stradeevough   Ahamlish   Sligo   1826-1836
Tivnan   Barthly   Mullinabreena   Achonry   Sligo   1827
Tivnan   John   Mullinabreena   Achonry   Sligo   1827
Tivnan   Mic   Cornameltha   Boyle   Roscommon   1833
Tivnan   Domk   Runatruffane   Killadoon   Sligo   
Tivnan      Runatruffane   Killadoon   Sligo   
Tivnan   Patt   Cornamucklagh   Killadoon   Sligo   
Tivnan   John   Eskragh and Lugadon   Kilturra   Sligo, Mayo   1833