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Title: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 11:11 BST (UK)
Morning all!

Would anyone have access to Bedwellty marriages and could look up the following, please?
William JONES + Ann EVANS, Bedwellty 23 Dec 1872.
Not on Ancestry or FreeReg :(

Ann's father should be Jesse but I'd like to know William's father and any witnesses, plus occupations or anything really!

Many thanks in anticipation.
Arranroots :)
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 11:28 BST (UK)
Hi AR  :)

No marriage but found Banns - Ann Evans's father is a Jesse Evans.Ann was 19 and William 26 at the time .


Gadget
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 11:30 BST (UK)
Had a look at the cert - it just says 'Dead' for Williams's father.

Witnessses - William Thomas and Jesse Evans

Jesse - a collier.
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 11:36 BST (UK)
Oh boohoo!

Thank you for your trouble though, Gadget. I decided to take another swing at this family and thought it wouldn't be easy. I think I need a spreadsheet or something! :D

Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 11:44 BST (UK)
Hmmm- those Joneses. So a William b.c. 1846. Became a collier.  Do you have a birthplace for him on any censuses?
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 11:49 BST (UK)
Yes, William was born in Merthyr, Glamorgan in 1846.

I like the look of parents Daniel and Elizabeth in 1851, siblings include Esther (three of his children's names):
Page Number
73
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
2458 / 212

But of course there are several other options.

Might try tracing Daniel forward and see if he dies before the marriage but am a bit rusty at this! :D

A :)
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 12:51 BST (UK)
Just thinking - if William didn't know his father's name or occupation, he might have either died when William was young or it's perhaps a cover for illegitimacy  :-\
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 13:43 BST (UK)
Yes, I'm open to all possibilities. Wouldn't be the first child born out of wedlock in our family tree! :D

A :)
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 15:31 BST (UK)
Family at Reply #5 is looking hopeful - Daniel dies (sometime) and Elizabeth remarries in 1859.
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 16:14 BST (UK)
Any link up or was William away from family by 1861?
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 16:22 BST (UK)
Yes, William (if it is him!) is still with the family in 1861 as a stepson and a scholar. By 1871 'my' William is a boarder away from home but I will check to see where his family is.

I can't find a matching death for Daniel JONES that I can be confident about between 1851 and 1859 - the youngest child of Daniel and Elizabeth (Ruth) is 8 in 1861. Daniel was born in Carmarthenshire in c 1808.

A :)

Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 17:21 BST (UK)
I've been looking through the burials but not much luck. I've been checking the obits and thought I'd found his death on 27th April 1854 in the obits* as it lists a Daniel Jones, carpenter, but this one was 38.  Also it was Clydach**

(*Monmouth Merlin May 5 1854).

** near the iron works
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 17:44 BST (UK)
Oh well that looks promising actually because he was a carpenter on the earlier 1851 census. I'll have a look at me map! :D

Thank you again.

A :)
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 17:59 BST (UK)
It was in Gilwern near the Clydach Iron Works.
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 27 August 17 18:16 BST (UK)
Sadly, I think it's this one in 1851:

HO107/2490/343/12

 :-\
Title: Re: Marriage look-up JONES+EVANS 1872 Bedwellty
Post by: Arranroots on Sunday 27 August 17 19:33 BST (UK)
Oh yes, see what you mean. He aged badly before he died though! :D

Ignore me - when I magnified it, it does say 35. Hey ho. Back to the drawing board.

;)