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Title: Looking for Ewart
Post by: Mrs Konini on Sunday 27 August 17 21:12 BST (UK)
It's a long shot
Looking for Ewart Graham. Probably ex Queens Own Cameron Highlanders where he was known
as " Gyp "
He had an older sister called Bridget .
Last heard of at Redford Barracks in Edinburgh 1928 .
From Lanarkshire possibly Bridgeton .
Does anyone have any information ?
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 27 August 17 22:27 BST (UK)
Hi Mrs Konini

I cannot see a birth for him so far, but there is only one possible Scottish death for someone with that name as first name only and not a middle surname:

Ewart Graham, aged 89 died in 1957 in Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire - ref. 850/4
   
You can view the image of the death reg online on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk  Not sure what else you have on him that would help you confirm his details? Could he have had another first name? There is a marriage for example for a William Ewart Graham in 1928 in Torthorwald which I wondered whether this might connect with the death in 1957. Hard to say really without more details...

Monica
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 27 August 17 23:18 BST (UK)
The 1901 for that Ewart Graham shows birthyear 1868 and birthplace Glenluce, Wigtonshire.  However - "he" is shown as female and the wife of John Graham

SP shows it as a female entry
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 27 August 17 23:23 BST (UK)
John Graham married Ewart Erskine 1900 Dumfries.  There is a 2yr old William E Erskine b Liverpool shown as son on the 1901 entry
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: Mrs Konini on Monday 28 August 17 15:05 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking Monica & Carole.
I don't think this is the man .
Suspect Ewart was a second name. He was from a village near Glasgow with
" Bridge " in the name . ?? Bridgeton .
Born about 1900 and probably in the Second Batallion Cameron Highlanders
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: skippy on Monday 28 August 17 16:42 BST (UK)
The only Bridget I can see that might fit was born 1888 in Coatbridge , possibly the" Bridge " the you mentioned.
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 28 August 17 16:59 BST (UK)
I also think it is likely that Ewart may have been a family surname, but he may not have been registered at birth with it.

Bridgeton is an area in Glasgow. The 'village' with the word 'bridge' reference might be Coatbridge as Skippy mentions.

Looking at 1901, there is this family with everyone born in Coatbridge except for mother:

Joseph Graham 42 Ironworker - Forehand Nuddler (?)
Mary Ann Graham 38 b. Ireland
Elizabeth Graham 16
Bridget Graham 10
John Graham 5
Edward Graham 3
Joseph Graham 10 Months

Address: 101 Hutton St, Coatbridge, Old Monkland

Hard to say isn't it  :-\ From the lack of detail, I am guessing it might have something to do with a baby?

Monica
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: Mrs Konini on Monday 28 August 17 17:55 BST (UK)
Yes, I have wondered about this family before . Could the Edward be Ewart ?
There was , ahem , a baby issue . I'm the granddaughter.
Bridgeton might have been more of a village in those days ?
Bridget worked in a cotton mill .
I've found a Hugh Graham and Minnie Ewart on Scotlands people but can't see their children .
Going to write to the Regimental Museum .

Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 28 August 17 18:07 BST (UK)
Hi

I am guessing that some of your info is from family "snippets".   How certain are you re his sisters name and where he was from?

Was your grandmother born in 1928 and is he named on her birth cert?  Was he shown as a serviceman?

Can you please tell us everything you know?  What info is documented fact and what is family "snippets"

Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 28 August 17 18:47 BST (UK)
 ;) Just found this old post....see you found it too, a year ago www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=442516.0

So, from the list of sons showing for Joseph and wife Mary Ann, we can exclude John who died in WW1.

From Anne's details on the other post:

On a slight tangent ......

There is also a John Grahames listed on Coatbridge Civic Memorial (possibly a relation of Elizabeth?) and this same John is possibly listed on Stewart & Lloyd's (Coatbridge) Memorial, see:

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=7&mforum=warmemscot

If you are interested in following up any Grahames - this John is listed on a family gravestone in Old Monkland Cemetery. He was the son of Joseph and Mary Ann Grahames of Coatbridge. (7th Bn. Royal Scots Fusiliers, Service No. 16224, died/killed 26th September 1915) His brother James was killed in WW2.

Photo of Family Gravestone in Old Monkland cemetery, see: Page 8 (Scottish War Graves Project)

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=93&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105&mforum=scottishwargraves

Anne

Again from Anne's links, son James born after 1901 who died in WW2 was in the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.

So we have sons Edward and Joseph. You have followed Edward? You mention he died in 1976.

The marriage of parents Joseph and Mary Ann gives her maiden name as MCKEVER. Marriage in 1883 in Old Monkland. Daughter Bridget's birth here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTFH-XZX

Possible marriage for daughter Bridget Grahames in 1919 to a Joseph Docherty. The cert would let you confirm her parents. I wonder if it includes an occupation for her that could help?

The family seem to like to go by the surname version Grahames? If so, have you checked the possible marriage of Edward in 1924 in Coatbridge?

Monica
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 28 August 17 18:59 BST (UK)
Well found Monica  ;D

So - do we look for Edward or Ewart Graham/Grahame/Grahames?

Is a father shown on your grandmothers birth cert or her marriage cert?  If so - what christian name is given?
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: Mrs Konini on Monday 28 August 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Thank you Monica and Carole : v touched by your support .
The only information comes from a conversation with an elderly aunt.
I would say the certainties are that he was in a kilted regiment stationed at Redford . ( Cameron Highlanders were stationed there at that time ) He was from Lanarkshire with an older sister called Bridget . This was in 1928 . The name is not on the birth certificate. He called himself Ewart but there is no suitable candidate on Scotlands people.
He marched " in front of his men " so I assume he was a Lance Corporal .
Do you think Edward might have been pronounced Ewart ?
I so wish I had asked more questions when I had the opportunity .
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 28 August 17 19:21 BST (UK)
Hi

Quote
I so wish I had asked more questions when I had the opportunity .

You are not alone - that is a sentiment echoed by so many of us including myself.

What year was your gran born and in which county?  Did your gran name a father on her marriage cert?
Title: Re: Looking for Ewart
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 28 August 17 19:32 BST (UK)

Do you think Edward might have been pronounced Ewart ?
.

Maybe. See this great site www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=ewart

Monica