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Title: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: History Lives on Monday 28 August 17 16:02 BST (UK)
I'm looking into my Maltese ancestry, and I can't seem to get anywhere with it.

My dad is Maltese and I know the name of my great granddad (my dad's paternal granddad), Sam Apap. I'm trying to find out the name's of his parents and so on and see how far back I can go, but either the records are scarce or I'm looking in the wrong place.

My great-granddad was born sometime between the mid 1920's and the early 1930's.

Unfortunately, during WW2 a lot of church records were destroyed by bombing and I fear this may be the case here. My family history may remain a mystery forever.
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: jorose on Monday 28 August 17 17:03 BST (UK)
You can order Maltese birth, marriage, and death certificates:
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/department.aspx

Did Sam Apap live all his life in Malta, or did he emigrate?
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: History Lives on Monday 28 August 17 17:07 BST (UK)
I knew my great-granddad a bit, met him a few times. He went to live in Australia towards the last years of his life around 2007. Apart from that, I think he lived in Malta all of his life.

Looking into my Scottish ancestry on my mum's side was really easy, and I got all of my info for free. I'm not really in a position to spend money on ancestry at the moment. Just looking simply for names so I don't really think that warrants spending money.
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: davidqueneherve on Monday 28 August 17 19:12 BST (UK)
Hi,

http://en.geneanum.com/malta.html
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: jorose on Tuesday 29 August 17 18:30 BST (UK)
Since it's so recent, the best place to get information for free would be to talk to any relatives who might either have old documents/photos or remember him talking about family. Presumably if he lived in Malta most of his life then he had children who emigrated to Australia from Malta?

You can find guides online which explain how to structure a family history interview, sometimes you get better results by letting people just talk about their childhood rather than giving them pages of questions to answer.

If you can get information about locations/addresses, it might be worth seeing if you can connect with relatives currently living in Malta.
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: Billyblue on Wednesday 30 August 17 16:56 BST (UK)
Do you know where in Australia he lived?
White pages Oz has 58 listings for Apap, nationally. And one site says in 2000 there were 80 listings in Queensland alone, for Apap.

There used to be a sizeable Maltese community in the Mackay area in Qld, mostly sugar farmers, though there don't seem to be any/many of that name there now.

Dawn M
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 31 August 17 10:15 BST (UK)
I'm looking into my Maltese ancestry, and I can't seem to get anywhere with it.

My dad is Maltese and I know the name of my great granddad (my dad's paternal granddad), Sam Apap. I'm trying to find out the name's of his parents and so on and see how far back I can go, but either the records are scarce or I'm looking in the wrong place.

My great-granddad was born sometime between the mid 1920's and the early 1930's.

Unfortunately, during WW2 a lot of church records were destroyed by bombing and I fear this may be the case here. My family history may remain a mystery forever.
do you have the names of any siblings of Sam ??   may help in our research - meanwhile have a look through these 50 pages

http://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sourcename=&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&nom=apap&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Malta&country__0__=MLT&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
I wonder if Sam is an Anglicised name of Salvatore ?..Apap buried here -Paola , Santa Maria Addolorata Cemetery ...
any little bit of info would help -
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 31 August 17 10:27 BST (UK)
I'm looking into my Maltese ancestry, and I can't seem to get anywhere with it.

My dad is Maltese and I know the name of my great granddad (my dad's paternal granddad), Sam Apap. I'm trying to find out the name's of his parents and so on and see how far back I can go, but either the records are scarce or I'm looking in the wrong place.

My great-granddad was born sometime between the mid 1920's and the early 1930's.

Unfortunately, during WW2 a lot of church records were destroyed by bombing and I fear this may be the case here. My family history may remain a mystery forever.

Do you have Sams wifes name ??
any relation ??...from Scullen Avenue ,Innisfall Queensland ,Australia
http://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=6995986
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: gedb2b on Thursday 31 August 17 11:00 BST (UK)
Have a quick look at the site attached, although mainly for military the name Apap pops up a few times on the voters lists going back from 1920 - http://www.maltafamilyhistory.com/
Good luck - GedB
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: davidqueneherve on Thursday 31 August 17 11:09 BST (UK)
There is an entry on Ancestry.com.au

Australia and New Zealand, Obituary Index, 2004-2017
Newspapers    
Name:    Sammy Salvu Apap
Spouse:    Nazzarena
Death:    dd mm 2014

APAP Sammy (Salvu) Passed away peacefully surrounded by his loving family on Nov. 22, 2014, aged 85 years. Beloved husband of Nazzarena ...
Title: Re: Looking into my Maltese ancestry to no avail. Help!
Post by: Billyblue on Sunday 03 September 17 22:14 BST (UK)
There's a notice for that death, listed on Ryerson Index, from the Melbourne Herald Sun paper.

If you need a copy you should be able to use the Ask a Librarian service of State Library of Victoria, to send you a snip of it.

Dawn M