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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: Jomot on Tuesday 29 August 17 04:55 BST (UK)
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I'm hoping for some help in finding what I think are the 'wife' and children of Dick Percival, who was born 1854 in Derbyshire. His parents Charles & Susannah don't seem to have married and moved from one common lodging house to another, eventually settling in the Durham area. Dick is with them as follows:
1861 Huddersfield - Dick Perciful 6 born Derbyshire - RG9/3261/57/35
1871 Westoe - Dick Percival 16 born Staveley? Derbyshire - RG10/5034/4/2
Charles died in the Bishop Auckland workhouse in 1881 and Susannah died the following year in Stanley Street, Jarrow. The informant was George Percival, Dick's older brother. I can't trace Dick with certainly after 1871, although this is probably him:
1881 Stockton, Durham - RG11/4897/59/39
Richard Percival 23 Puddler born Bishop Auckland
Ann Percival Wife 21 Bishop Auckland
1901 Elvet, Durham - RG13/4679/76/8
Isabella Percival Boarder Married 31 b Bedlington, Northumberland
Richard Percival Boarder Married 51 Knife Grinder & Cutler born Bishop Auckland
Head of House is Mary Bowe, 85, Common Lodging House Keeper
I'm therefore assuming that Richard & Isabella were a couple, although its unlikely that they married. Although no children are with them, the Durham County Advertiser of 29 June 1900 carries a report of Isabella Percival "a woman on tramp" being prosecuted at the insistence of the NSPCC for cruelty to her two children. She was drunk and begging at West Stanley and also sent the children to beg, but when they didn't bring her enough money she thrashed one of them. She was sentenced to 3 months hard labour & the bench said they would try & find a suitable home for the boys, who were named as Richard & George, although no ages were given.
A Richard Percival aged 54 died in 1904 in the Lanchester RD, but what I'm still trying to find out is:
1) Where was Dick/Richard in 1891, and who with?
2) What was Isabella's maiden name?
3) When & where were Richard & George born?
4) What happened to them after June 1900?
5) When & where did Isabella die?
All help greatly appreciated!
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Hi a possible for the boys in 1901
County industrial school Earls House Durham
Richard Percival 10 inmate schoolboy Chester-le-street Durham
George Percival 10 inmate schoolboy Chester -le -street Durham.
RG13/4701 f163 p6
Tazzie
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Connecticut Military paper gives the following
Richard Percival born 5 Apr 1890 Birtley Durham
father Richard Percival
mother Isable Waker
Sorry don't think that's him father born Texas and mother Scotland oops :-[
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Tazzie - thank you! I've had so many problem's with the Percival's over the years that I think my brain just refused to function anymore when I didn't have a year of birth for them ;D
Milliepede, that's also an interesting record. I've no idea why he would be in Connecticut, but the rest is too much of a coincidence to overlook.
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I think you could be onto something with that record Millipede. I've just found a Canadian WW1 record for a George Percival born Durham City 5 Dec 1892. Although crossed out he listed his next of kin as Richard Percival, brother (?) 'somewhere in France 117 CEF". I can't make out what's been written instead, but a potential birth record in Q1 1893 gives mmn as Walker.
I wonder if they were both sent to Canada after the 1901 census?
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Also a record Canadian papers for Richard Percival who signs for Cef in July 1915 he states next of kin as George brother but cannot read address. He states Dob as 5 April 1890
Regiment number 417869.
Tazzie
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I can't work out the father born Texas mother in Scotland thing but in the 1930 US census Richard still makes that claim and states he entered US in 1913.
Tazzie
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Canada Census 1911 has a George Persival (as transcribed on Family Search) b England Dec 1892 and a Richard Bercival (as transcribed on FS) living in Brome, Quebec. Found the images on Canada Archives site - George transcribed as Percival there and has immigration in 1905- found Richard by searching for William Forbes who FS shows in same household and has immigration in 1907. Both working as labourers in different households.
William
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It does look like they were sent to Canada as Home Children:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kml/
Good find on the 1911,William!
Maureen
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Wow, this is all great information - thank you !
This is my husband's family and I'm blown away to discover from Richard's WW2 draft card that he was living in Cleveland, Ohio - just four miles from my own family who emigrated there from Wales. Incredible!
Lots of blanks still to fill in but the information so far is brilliant. Thanks everyone !
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Hi a possible for the boys in 1901
County industrial school Earls House Durham
Richard Percival 10 inmate schoolboy Chester-le-street Durham
George Percival 10 inmate schoolboy Chester -le -street Durham.
RG13/4701 f163 p6
Tazzie
Just for the record Earl's House was at Witton Gilbert. http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/DurhamIS/
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=54.8000&lon=-1.6113&layers=171&right=BingHyb
It seems that the boys who were there had been in some sort of 'trouble', as they were sent there under order of the courts.
Apart from the one you mention, there are a couple of other newspaper reports 1900-1901 of Isabella being in court for being drunk and disorderly.
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Thanks Jen
It seems from there they somehow ended up going to Canada under the care of Louisa Birt of the Liverpool Sheltering Homes for Destitute Children.