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Title: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Tuesday 29 August 17 19:54 BST (UK)
I would love to find any ancestor's of my inlaws late mother Maria Hughes passed away 08/03/16
Title: Re: Looking for history of the late Marie Hugh's originated from Liverpool
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 29 August 17 19:58 BST (UK)
You need to give a lot more information than just her name and birthplace

When was she born?

Who did she marry and when?

Can you confirm her surname - Hugh or Hughes 
Title: Re: Looking for history of the late Marie Hugh's originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Tuesday 29 August 17 20:07 BST (UK)
Sorry carole apologies  : Marie  : surname were Hughes her D.O.B was the 20/10/43
she married an Anthony Hogan
Both born in Liverpool
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 29 August 17 20:56 BST (UK)
Looks like her birth reg.

Births Dec 1943   
Hughes    Maria    Riley    Liverpool N.    8b   532

Maria rather than Marie

Parents marriage?

Marriages Mar 1938   
Hughes    William E    Riley Helena    Liverpool S.    8b   139
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Tuesday 29 August 17 21:23 BST (UK)
Looks like her birth reg.

Births Dec 1943   
Hughes    Maria    Riley    Liverpool N.    8b   532

Maria rather than Marie

Parents marriage?

Marriages Mar 1938   
Hughes    William E    Riley Helena    Liverpool S.    8b   139
Hi Girl Guid
So sorry I'm in between asking deseased - daughter's  husband  and he's as useless as me 😳 He's trying to do this sort of on the sneak! As she always wanted to know the history - so he's going to find out off another family member - so I can update the post and it could be Maria it hard for me to understand his accent on the phone. Oh gosh I should defiantly write everything down before I post 🙄 Again "sorry" x
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 29 August 17 21:34 BST (UK)
Don't worry about it Julz, it can be hard to understand someone who has a pronounced accent.

William and Helena are on the 1939 with two children.  If you can access it yourself, have a look, it shows a child who I think was a Riley before taking the name Hughes.
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: jeanc on Tuesday 29 August 17 21:54 BST (UK)
Also at the same address is a Helena Riley born 1880, possible the grandmother of Maria.

Regards.
JeanC

Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Tuesday 29 August 17 22:48 BST (UK)
Don't worry about it Julz, it can be hard to understand someone who has a pronounced accent.

William and Helena are on the 1939 with two children.  If you can access it yourself, have a look, it shows a child who I think was a Riley before taking the name Hughes.
hi Hun yes he has just confirmed after a while of spelling the name Maria to me 😬That's correct and Riley is a 💯 so that would make that his wife's great grandma 👵🏼 thank you so much 😊 💞
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Tuesday 29 August 17 22:50 BST (UK)
Also at the same address is a Helena Riley born 1880, possible the grandmother of Maria.

Regards.

JeanC
Hi Jean
Also correct thank you do much your a ⭐️💞
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 30 August 17 10:40 BST (UK)
This is the Riley birth that I found

Births Jun 1937   
Riley    Jane    Riley    Liverpool S.    8b   126

Below is another Hughes/Riley birth for Liverpool S. up to 1945

Births Sep 1939   
Hughes    Michael    Riley    Liverpool S.    8b   113

There are another four births registered but as these people may still be alive I won't put them here.  However if you go on the free bmd website, choose births, enter Hughes and Riley for mnn, put in years 1936 to 1945 and Liverpool South, the other births will appear.

I did the same for Liverpool North and came up with four births one of which is Maria's.

I don't know how many of these births will be siblings of Maria's.




Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 31 August 17 07:12 BST (UK)
if Helena Riley who married William E Hughes was born in Liverpool - there is a Helena Riley born 1915 - Scotland Road area on http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/births.php
it looks like they move to Liverpool South - but there is a Scotland Road website for people who are interested in that area
I live in Liverpool South and know both areas
http://www.scottiepress.org/
www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk  may be of use to you as well

Girl Guide - 1939 register - Helena Riley b 1880 - does it say where she was born ?
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: jeanc on Thursday 31 August 17 07:55 BST (UK)
1939 registers don't give information of where person is born. This was the regerster taken at the start of the Second World War.

Regards
JeanC
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 31 August 17 09:10 BST (UK)
This looks like the birth for the younger Helena in the 1939

Births Dec 1915 
Riley    Helena    O'Neill    Liverpool    8b   36
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 31 August 17 09:38 BST (UK)
This looks like the birth for the younger Helena in the 1939

Births Dec 1915 
Riley    Helena    O'Neill    Liverpool    8b   36

that's the one Girl Guide - the other Helena Riley looked too early to me ie 1900 meaning she was 38 when she married - so I am plumping for the 1915 as well ...22 when she married - looks more likely  :)
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Friday 01 September 17 01:44 BST (UK)
This is the Riley birth that I found

Births Jun 1937   
Riley    Jane    Riley    Liverpool S.    8b   126

Below is another Hughes/Riley birth for Liverpool S. up to 1945

Births Sep 1939   
Hughes    Michael    Riley    Liverpool S.    8b   113

There are another four births registered but as these people may still be alive I won't put them here.  However if you go on the free bmd website, choose births, enter Hughes and Riley for mnn, put in years 1936 to 1945 and Liverpool South, the other births will appear.

I did the same for Liverpool North and came up with four births one of which is Maria's.

I don't know how many of these births will be siblings of Maria's.
Aww thank you so very much you are so kind I really appreciate your time I think you are just amazing what you all do 👏👏👏she will be over the moon
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Friday 01 September 17 02:03 BST (UK)
This looks like the birth for the younger Helena in the 1939

Births Dec 1915 
Riley    Helena    O'Neill    Liverpool    8b   36

that's the one Girl Guide - the other Helena Riley looked too early to me ie 1900 meaning she was 38 when she married - so I am plumping for the 1915 as well ...22 when she married - looks more likely  :)

Thank you was there any information on Anthony Hughes who married Maria in 1938 ? Much appreciated x
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 03 September 17 09:17 BST (UK)
The 1938 marriage relates to the below couple

Marriages Mar 1938   
Hughes    William E    Riley Helena    Liverpool S.    8b   139

which I gave you on an earlier post.

Who are the below supposed to be?

"Thank you was there any information on Anthony Hughes who married Maria in 1938 ? Much appreciated x"
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Monday 04 September 17 08:22 BST (UK)
The 1938 marriage relates to the below couple

Marriages Mar 1938   
Hughes    William E    Riley Helena    Liverpool S.    8b   139

which I gave you on an earlier post.

Who are the below supposed to be?

"Thank you was there any information on Anthony Hughes who married Maria in 1938 ? Much appreciated x"
You know Girl Guide most of the time I don't know wether I'm coming or going - I'm still finding where I belong in this world - yet get so much pleasure seeing others happy with finding peace & clarity in there lives.
Sorry for repeated questions.
& also for the repeated
apologies.
Thank you xx
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 04 September 17 08:49 BST (UK)
Were you intending to ask about Anthony Hogan who married Maria Hughes in 1962?   Or did you get muddled up with Helena and William who married in 1938?   ???  ???
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Monday 23 October 17 11:15 BST (UK)
Were you intending to ask about Anthony Hogan who married Maria Hughes in 1962?   Or did you get muddled up with Helena and William who married in 1938?   ???  ???
We are going to visit today sorry for late reply I know ***** Hogan’s mother : Maria Hogan born 20/10/1943 : Died : 08/03/2016  So assuming *** Hogans father was called Anthony is that correct?
I will ask more today thank you 😊 xx
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 23 October 17 11:31 BST (UK)
The best way to verify the father's name is to obtain the 1962 marriage certificate.  You cannot assume that he has the same name as his son.

I think you need to sit down and make a note of all the births and marriages that you have found and put them in family and date order.

Buying certificates is the only way to verify that what you have found is correct.  Otherwise you will just get yourself into a muddle over who goes where.
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Monday 23 October 17 12:01 BST (UK)
The best way to verify the father's name is to obtain the 1962 marriage certificate.  You cannot assume that he has the same name as his son.

I think you need to sit down and make a note of all the births and marriages that you have found and put them in family and date order.

Buying certificates is the only way to verify that what you have found is correct.  Otherwise you will just get yourself into a muddle over who goes where.
Hi yes iv wrote them all down to take to her today as even writing them totally confused me 🤷‍♀️😳 all As I knew from her 100%  mother & father’s marriage was
Anthony Hogan married Maria Hughes in 1962 mmn Riley so she clarified the Riley
The O’neill Then threw me 😰 
Thanks Hun
It’s so hard when your asking for details to help them & they have so little to go by
Thank you xx
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Bluemgf1066 on Wednesday 01 November 17 08:35 GMT (UK)


I think you need to sit down and make a note of all the births and marriages that you have found and put them in family
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Monday 06 November 17 11:13 GMT (UK)
Were you intending to ask about Anthony Hogan who married Maria Hughes in 1962?   Or did you get muddled up with Helena and William who married in 1938?   ???  ???
Hi GG
Anthony Hogan born
5/11/1942
Mothers name Mary Jane sarcefield not sure if I spelt his mother’s maiden name is spelt correct!? She told me over the phone and was like Sar-S-field 😳 xx
Hi
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Julz1211 on Monday 06 November 17 11:17 GMT (UK)
The best way to verify the father's name is to obtain the 1962 marriage certificate.  You cannot assume that he has the same name as his son.


I think you need to sit down and make a note of all the births and marriages that you have found and put them in family and date order.

Buying certificates is the only way to verify that what you have found is correct.  Otherwise you will just get yourself into a muddle over who goes where.
Hi again and yes there is a death last year of an Anthony who I think he was 30 ish and also Anthony senior also named his son Anthony Hun
Xx
Title: Re: "Hughes" Looking for history of the late Marie Hughes originated from Liverpool
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 06 November 17 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hmm, not seeing any Anthony with a mother's maiden name that bears any similarity to the name of Sarsfield.

Where was the 1942 Anthony Hogan born?  It would help to narrow down the possibilities.

Has this Anthony died and if so do you know when and where?