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Title: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Wednesday 30 August 17 07:18 BST (UK)

I've found a baptism for Jane Wake in Darlington in 1782 in the Durham Online Index but I can't find the same entry in the IGI or FreeReg. Is this the only place it would be available?

ADD I entered father George and mother Jane and the record still came up, so at least I'm further along :-)

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: mirl on Wednesday 30 August 17 07:31 BST (UK)

There are some with that name and year on ancestry in their All England Select Births & Christenings 1538-1975 index.

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Wednesday 30 August 17 07:37 BST (UK)

Thanks Mirl, I just checked - looks like Jane slipped through the net :-)

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Millmoor on Wednesday 30 August 17 09:23 BST (UK)

Just to say that the records on Durham Records Online are organised by district -your baptism could be from any of the parishes in that district. The baptisms for Darlington St Cuthbert on the Bts only give father's name in 1782 and so it would appear that you can rule that one out. (You can work out  which parishes are covered by Darlington District from the DRO homepage "What we Offer").

William

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Wednesday 30 August 17 09:38 BST (UK)

Thanks William, good to know :-)
Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Wednesday 30 August 17 16:22 BST (UK)

Heighington St. Michael 29 Dec 1782 Jane Wake d/o George and Jane Wake.
 
The BT's for Heighington do not include parental name.  Page 42 of 182.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DHFQ-52Z?i=41&wc=9K5S-16V%3A13618101%2C26629401%2C16337902&cc=1309819

There are quite a few siblings baptised all at Heighington and several burials.
 
Burials:

George Wake, age 70, of Heighington, 20 Apr 1816, a carrier
Jane Wake, age 66, 26 Oct 1817 of Heighington, widow of George Wake, carrier

Unfortunately none during the Barrington era that might give more information.

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Thursday 31 August 17 01:45 BST (UK)

Janis, thanks so much for this info and including the deaths of the parents, which hopefully will let me connect them to the George and Jane Wake who married in Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, in 1774.

It's a pity only the BTs are online now at FamilySearch. I'm sure I have a memory of many Durham registers being online years ago ...

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Thursday 31 August 17 06:13 BST (UK)

My family started out in Middleton Tyas only they lived off and on in Norton.

Do you want the other Wake's in Heighington?  There are a total of 9 children baptisms to George and Jane, Quite a few marriages of those children, several burials many early 1700's

For most of the parish records this family lived mostly in Redworth if that abode comes up in your research.

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Thursday 31 August 17 06:40 BST (UK)

Thanks Janis, that would be wonderful, but only if it's not too much trouble. Thanks also for the Redworth connection - I'm learning a lot about English geography :-)

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Thursday 31 August 17 07:40 BST (UK)

All children of George and Jane and at Heighington St. Michael:

Ann Wake baptized 4 Jun 1775 d/o George and Jane
Sarah Wake baptized 24 Aug 1777, d/o George and Jane Wake
Elizabeth Whake (sic) 2 May 1779 /o George and Jane
Alice Wake baptized 15 Apr 1781 d/o George and Jane
William Wake baptized 26 Jun 1785 , same
George Wake baptized 26 Dec 1787, same
Eleanor Wake baptized 1790, same
Mary Wake baptized 27 Dec 1795, same

Marriages:

Alice Wake of this parish married John Westmoreland of this parish 3 Jun 1807, by banns Wit: Caleb Wake and George Wake

12 Jan 1818 George Wake, weaver, of the parish of Heighington married Mary Sidgewick, spinster of this parish, by license
Witnesses: Miles Fordy, William Longstaff

Joseph Pattison of the parish of Haughton married Jane Wake of this parish,14 May 1805 by banns.  Wit:  George Temple and Robert Tewart

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Thursday 31 August 17 08:13 BST (UK)

Thanks so much, Janis, I really appreciate this info - plenty to follow up here. Was there a date for the Jane Wake marriage to Joseph Pattison?

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Thursday 31 August 17 14:33 BST (UK)

Sorry, I modified the answer so now the date appears.  Too late last night.

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Friday 01 September 17 00:58 BST (UK)

Thanks Janis, the date means I can rule out this Jane Wake from my search.

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Friday 01 September 17 03:51 BST (UK)

What particulars were you looking for in your Jane?  Age or possible year of birth, marriage?  Children?  I have lots of resources.  There is an earlier George/Jane combination in Heighington

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Friday 01 September 17 04:16 BST (UK)

Hi Janis,

Thanks for asking :-) It's rather a complicated story.

I'm looking for the baptism of the Jane Wake who married Thomas Coulson in 1810 in Haughton le Skerne. There were other Wakes living there at that time but she doesn't seem to be directly related.

In the 1851 census she was living in Southwark London and gave her birthplace as Scotland and her age as 74. The Wakes at Haughton le Skerne originally came from Middleton Tyas in Yorkshire. When I looked at the map I was surprised to see "Scotch Corner" nearby - I 'm guessing the census enumerator misheard that as Scotland!  But there's no Jane baptised there. There was a George Wake who married Jane Brewster in Middleton Tyas in 1774 - I suspect they are the couple at Heighington. Their daughter Jane was baptised 1782 Heighington which doesn't fit.

So I thought I'd see what I could find around that area. Their is a baptism for a Jane Wake in 1775 in Easby (not far from Middleton Tyas), illegitimate daughter of Margaret Wake, which seems promising.

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Saturday 02 September 17 01:31 BST (UK)

Hi Janis,

I wondered if your records for Heighington go back to 1702? I've been told there was a John Wake baptised there in 1702 - I'd love to know if his parents were John and Elizabeth :-)

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Saturday 02 September 17 01:56 BST (UK)

John Wake baptised 18 Aug 1702 son of Ralph, Heighington

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: 2zpool on Saturday 02 September 17 02:00 BST (UK)

No children born between the marriage in 1810 and the baptism of Jane Coulson in 1813? 

Janis

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Saturday 02 September 17 02:18 BST (UK)

Many thanks, Janis, these are all going to fit together one day ...

I've only found 3 children for Thomas Coulson and Jane Wake - Jane 1813, Hannah 1816 and George 1818 - all bapt Haughton le Skerne, which fits with their mother's age. Jane would be 36, 39 and 41 so you wouldn't expect a lot of children. They're all living together in Southwark in 1841 plus grandson Thomas Coulson (daughter Jane's son) born 1837 Stokesley.

Thomas Coulson, the father, is equally as mysterious. Born ca 1777 according to his death in 1837 in Southwark, the best fit I can find is the Thomas Coulson bapt 25 May 1777 in Aycliffe.

Thanks for your feedback - I do appreciate it!
Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: fiddlerslass on Tuesday 12 September 17 13:06 BST (UK)

Hi,
 Henry COULSON of Haughton Le Skerne died 1819 buried Aug 24 age 53, (born around 1766) had a half brother Thomas COULSON of Haughton according to his will of 1819

Burial in BTs

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-675S-6ZX?i=180&wc=9K53-YWG%3A13618101%2C26462701%2C24680102&cc=1309819

Will

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6Q3Q-TLS?cc=2358715

There is a baptism of Henry COULSON in 1766 at Haughton, son of Thomas

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-675S-69J?i=6&wc=9K53-YWG%3A13618101%2C26462701%2C24680102&cc=1309819

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Tuesday 12 September 17 23:15 BST (UK)

Thanks fiddlerslass, that's a great piece of the puzzle. I knew about Henry Coulson (son of Thomas Coulson and Dorothy Shaw) and even had a Thomas Coulson who was born ca 1755 before that marriage. To know he was a half brother is a great lead. Now to find his parents and work forward from there.

Thanks also for the will - I didn't know they were on Familysearch.

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: fiddlerslass on Wednesday 13 September 17 08:58 BST (UK)

Hi Jan,
 So Thomas the half brother is definitely older than Henry, as Dorothy Coulson, nee SHAW, widow of Thomas was buried at Houghton in 1805. I think therefore that Thomas of the will is still living in Houghton in 1841, so cannot be the one in London.

1841 HO107/304/9/13 Houghton Le Skerne
all born Durham

Thomas COULSON 86
Margaret  "           35
Thomas   "            6

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Wednesday 13 September 17 23:28 BST (UK)

Thanks fiddlerslass, yes I can rule out that Thomas.

I had a look at the wills on familysearch but could only browse. How did you manage to find Henry's will?

Jan

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: fiddlerslass on Thursday 14 September 17 18:25 BST (UK)

Hi Jan,
 The wills are indexed here

http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php

Title: Re: Darlington baptism 1782
Post by: Jang on Friday 15 September 17 07:45 BST (UK)

Thanks, that's great to know!