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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Ad van Zantvoort on Thursday 31 August 17 07:40 BST (UK)
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For my research I trying to get in touch with the relatives of Sgt Maxwell Joseph Cronin RNZAF. At the age of 21 he took part in a Wellington Bomber crew(57 Squadron) as a second pilot before he get his own crew. On the 27th December 1941 the aircraft was shotdown over Someren and almost the entire crew killed. It is my intention to erect a small token near the crashsite in memory to this crew and I would like to get in touch with the relatives of the crew. I am in touch already with three crew relatives. Max is the son of E.D.W.Cronin and of Mary Florence Cronin of Remuera, Auckland.NZ. Max is buried along with his comrades at Eindhoven General Cemetery (War grave section) in The Netherlands.
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The marriage of his parents
1912/5646 Mary Florence Garland to Edward Denis Joseph Cronin
a sister to Maxwell
1916/12180 Cronin Patricia Barbara to Mary Florence and Edward Denis Joseph
Cheers Janette
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Her death
1996/42796 Cronin Patricia Barbara born 24 March 1916
Cheers Janette
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Death
1926/9421 Cronin Edward Denis Joseph 43Y
Cheers Janette
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In the 1914 Electoral Roll there is a Marie Cronin, spinster and Bartholomew Cronin - school teacher, living with Edward Denis Joseph Cronin, chemist, and a Mary Cronin married. All at Saltburn Road Takapuna.
Edward's third middle name doesn't match with the third initial you gave and Mary Jane doesn't match with Mary Florence.
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According to the Probate documents for Edward Denis Joseph CRONIN, his wife Mary Florence CRONIN stated that their only children were > namely, Patricia Barbara CRONIN and Maxwell Joseph CRONIN
(as of 1927 the children were aged 11 and 6 years respectively).
Will add Probate link next post.
~ Lu
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Probate : Edward Denis Joseph CRONIN : 1927
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99XN-J3ZM?i=51&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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1919 Edward Denis Joseph and Mary Florence are at 249 Hastings Street Napier. There are other Cronins at different addresses bit none of those living with them in 1914.
Edward Denis Joseph is on the New Zealand Army WWI Reserve Rolls, 2nd Division in 1917 when he was living in Napier.
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The Bartholemew Cronin and Mary Jane Cronin were married according to Bartholemew's cemetery record. Bartholemew died 31 October 1924 age 75. Buried Otahuhu Catholic cemetery
Edward Denis is in the same cemetery with a broken headstone with a corner missing. Edward denis was 42 when he died 1927. I wonder if Bartholemew was his father?
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Info for Maxwell CRONIN
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19420105.2.97
~ Lu
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An obituary for the father
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19261201.2.119?query=%20cronin
According to it he left a widow and 2 children
Cheers Janette
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The Bartholemew Cronin and Mary Jane Cronin were married according to Bartholemew's cemetery record. Bartholemew died 31 October 1924 age 75. Buried Otahuhu Catholic cemetery
Edward Denis is in the same cemetery with a broken headstone with a corner missing. Edward denis was 42 when he died 1927. I wonder if Bartholemew was his father?
E D J Cronin was the only son of B Cronin according to the obit.
Cheers Janette
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Cenotaph record for Maxwell.......
http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C22650?n=maxwell%20joseph%20cronin&ordinal=0&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch
Minniehaha.
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Edward Denis is in the same cemetery with a broken headstone with a corner missing. Edward denis was 42 when he died 1927. I wonder if Bartholemew was his father?
NZ Birth :
1883 - CRONIN - Edward Dennis
Parents: Mary Jane and Joseph Bartholmew
~ Lu
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Death of Mary Florence?
1984/44418 Cronin Mary Florence 24 September 1887
Minniehaha.
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Probate for Bartholomew CRONIN :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSSJ-P55M
[Taking some time to download so haven't read it yet. There were three daughters of his union to Mary Jane - one died in infancy. ]
~ Lu
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Probate [1984] Mary Florence Cronin.......
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=187782
Minniehaha.
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Info for Maxwell CRONIN
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19420105.2.97
~ Lu
As mentioned in above article, Maxwell CRONIN was the Grandson of the Hon. G.J. GARLAND (otherwise George Joseph GARLAND) who served in the New Zealand Parliament.
[NZ Death: George Joseph GARLAND d. 1950 aged 94 years. ]
The GARLAND line could perhaps yield more "relatives" ???
~ Lu
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Probate record for George Joseph GARLAND (grandfather of Maxwell CRONIN) :
It mentions some of his children.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSCL-99R5-H?i=90&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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Mary Florence GARLAND (the mother of Maxwell GRONIN) was the daughter of George Joseph and Sarah GARLAND :
Application for Letters of Administration (In the Estate of Sarah GARLAND) :
Names of children of G J and Sarah GARLAND, are given starting at Image 36.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9VX-D5L1?i=32&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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Further to reply #2, I believe these are the cemetery details relating to Patricia Barbara Cronin but incorrectly recorded as Patricia Margaret. Date of death for Patricia Barbara Cronin on NZ BDM website is 20.10.1996, the same as for the cemetery records below.
Surname CRONIN
First Names Patricia Margaret
Age 80 Years
Gender Female
Date of Death 20 Oct 1996
Religion Roman Catholic
Serial No 67601
Date of Service and/or Interment 23 Oct 1996
Type Of Service
Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal Returned
Book Of Remembrance No
Record re burial of ashes;
http://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=9060
Added: Probate-
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=17025199
Minniehaha.
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A little more Garland family information re sons mentioned in the above will of George Joseph Garland:
1958/22773 Garland Anthony Oliver 68Y
1971/34643 Garland George Stuart 83Y
First & second marriages:
1937/688 Lavina Kathleen Bidlake George Stuart Garland
1913/7082 Kathleen Mary Buxton George Stuart Garland
Minniehaha.
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Hi lancaster103
Mmm ... it's proving a little difficult to locate relatives of this man. His only sibling (a sister, Patricia Barbara CRONIN, died unmarried and presumably without issue ?).
Now looking to track down his mother's GARLAND family. Quite a number of online "trees" (at ancestry website) include Maxwell CRONIN's grandfather, George Joseph GARLAND, a New Zealand parliamentarian; however the information contained doesn't link to any of his children ??? (Seems these "trees" are more of a "name gathering" exercise than anything else. ;D )
The "manager" of the following, may have further information to share on the family ???
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Scouller-35
~ Lu
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The following may be helpful in locating relatives ?
(At a glance can see that the Will gives names of "nieces" ).
Probate file for Anthony Oliver GARLAND (the brother of Mary Florence CRONIN and uncle of Maxwell Joseph CRONIN).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFN-L9Y8-2?i=437&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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Probate record (with annexed Will) for Agnes Blanche COOKE. (Agnes was the sister of Mary Florence CRONIN, and aunt of Maxwell CRONIN).
It names her children (two of whom appear to be the "nieces" named in the Will of Anthony Oliver GARLAND - see my earlier post.)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSX1-KSB4-V?i=278&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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Another Probate file - this is for Marjory Scouller GARLAND, spinster of Auckland - died 1950.
[Her name is spelled as "Marjorie" / "Margery" in various records - with Marjory being correct as attested by her brother. ]
Marjory's Will was written in 1939 and "her nephew, Maxwell Joseph CRONIN" was named as a beneficiary of her residual estate.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSCL-99TX-5?i=93&cc=1865481&cat=2240878
~ Lu
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Hi Lancaster103
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cronin-670
^ Above is a contact for a person who has an interest in Edward Dennis Joseph CRONIN, (father of Maxwell Joseph CRONIN) ... and the other children of Mary Jane and Bartholomew CRONIN.
~ Lu
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Hi Lancaster103
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cronin-670
^ Above is a contact for a person who has an interest in Edward Dennis Joseph CRONIN, (father of Maxwell Joseph CRONIN) ... and the other children of Mary Jane and Bartholomew CRONIN.
~ Lu
Hi again lancaster103
Returning to the above link to CRONIN family ... this one is probably worthwhile you making contact with. ;)
There seems to be additional information in a "tree" published on ancestry.com. (by presumably the same person ? )
> at ancestry (Public member trees) search on " Bartholmew" + "CRONIN" + died "new zealand".
[The tree is named as "ao'sullivan" ]
It has information for Eileen Agnes CRONIN (LINCOLN) (paternal aunt of Maxwell CRONIN) - and the wife of Frank LINCOLN. It named their two (now deceased) sons.
According to the Will of Frank LINCOLN who died in 1948, he had 2 sons and 4 daughters.
None of the children were named in the Wills of Eileen Agnes LINCOLN (d. 1928) or Frank LINCOLN (1948).
~ Lu
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Hi lancaster103
Well such an awful lot of information now placed in this thread ;D... and I for one am guilty of "dumping" much which probably seems somewhat irrelevant. It is though intended as a "means to an end".
Many of the people mentioned in the Wills of Maxwell's family members, are now also deceased and it's not easy to find the next generation.
My recommendation (> and to spare you having to wade through all the probate files etc.) would be for you to make contact with the two "Wikitree" people who have links to the GARLAND and CRONIN families.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Scouller-35
GARLAND family
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cronin-670
CRONIN family
If they are unable to assist, then there are still some other "avenues" we can look to.
Good luck. :)
~ Lu
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Obituary for Mary Jane Cronin:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19380608.2.165?query=m%20j%20cronin
Death of a daughter of Mary Jane Cronin:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19281020.2.2.4?query=m%20j%20cronin
Obituary for Bartholomew Cronin:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19231102.2.115?query=bartholomew%20cronin
Minniehaha.
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The probated will of Maxwell Joseph CRONIN......
[Includes his death certicate]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95X-MWZD?i=218&wc=7HBW-LCJ%3A1045247701%2C1579873721&cc=1865481
Minniehaha.
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Photograph of Sergeant M. J. CRONIN......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19420105.2.103.2?query=m%20j%20cronin
Minniehaha.
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Death notice received for Patricia Barbara CRONIN (known as Pattie).
Confirms that she died @ Auckland on 20.10.1996, "daughter of the late Roy* and Florence and sister of the late Max Cronin".
Cremated @ Purewa Cemetery, so the records are incorrect in showing the name as Patricia Margaret.
*As stated.
Minniehaha.
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Hello Adrian,
I have made contact with a cousin of the late M. J. Cronin and he is very much looking forward to hearing from you.
I am about to PM his e-mail address to you........
Minniehaha.
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Good work Minniehaha,it would be nice to see a photo of this token/monument once it is erected
Cheers Janette
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He was just a boy
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Photograph @ reply # 31........
Minniehaha. ;)
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Photograph @ reply # 31........
Minniehaha. ;)
Ooops sorry Minnie
Cheers Janette
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Further to reply #2, I believe these are the cemetery details relating to Patricia Barbara Cronin but incorrectly recorded as Patricia Margaret. Date of death for Patricia Barbara Cronin on NZ BDM website is 20.10.1996, the same as for the cemetery records below.
Surname CRONIN
First Names Patricia Margaret
Age 80 Years
Gender Female
Date of Death 20 Oct 1996
Religion Roman Catholic
Serial No 67601
Date of Service and/or Interment 23 Oct 1996
Type Of Service
Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal Returned
Book Of Remembrance No
Record re burial of ashes;
http://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=9060
Added: Probate-
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=17025199
Minniehaha.
I contacted Purewa and this will be corrected and should show in about 2 months when the website is updated.
Cheers Janette
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"I contacted Purewa and this will be corrected and should show in about 2 months when the website is updated.
Cheers Janette"
Well done! ;D ;D
Minniehaha.
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This morning an PM is arrived from Minniehaha and she put me in touch with the family of Maxwell Cronin. What a surprise when you just woke up looking over the emails. Fantastic.
Many,Many Thanks to all members who helped me to track down the relatives of Max Cronin. I will let you all know how is it going and what my further plans are hopefully to put a small token near the crashsite??? Thank you all very,very much
Adrian