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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kinross-shire => Topic started by: buckhyne on Friday 01 September 17 17:20 BST (UK)
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I have a copy of the pre-1855 Monumental Inscriptions for Kinross Cemeteries.
The cemeteries are:
1….CLEISH Churchyard
2….FOSSOWAY Churchyard
3.…FOSSOWAY Old Churchyard
4….KINROSS Kirkgate
5.…KINROSS West Churchyard
6….MILNATHORT Churchyard
7….ORWELL Old Churchyard
8….PORTMOAK Chapel
9.…PORTMOAK Farm: only 4 stones – one dated 1684 – no names
10…PORTMOAK Churchyard
11...TULLIBOLE Old Churchyard
12...BLAIRINGONE Churchyard
Lookups welcome but remember they are pre-1855 inscriptions although some stones also have later dates.
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Hi. I have a Margaret Graham who married Robert Anderson in Beath on 2 Jan 1802. I suspect she might be the Margaret Graham born 15 Dec 1775 in Orwell, Kinross-shire to Robert Graham [& probably Margaret Wylie, as she is named as the mother of subsequent Robert Graham children in Orwell and Kinross]. Would you mind looking at Kinross-shire MI's for references to Robert Graham & Margaret Wylie.
I see that you have an interest in "Lawrie". A son of the above Robert Anderson & Margaret Graham, Robert Anderson b1804, married a Margaret "Lawtie" [or Latto] who was born c1813-1816 in Fossoway [per 1851, 1861, 1871 Census]. The marriage was in Ballingry, Fife on 23 Nov 1839. Would you have you come across this Margaret Lawtie?
Thanks
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Hello Buckhyne, i have PATON and JOHNSTON/E in your area. Any update would be appreciated.
cheers
Jack Gee
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Hi. I have a Margaret Graham who married Robert Anderson in Beath on 2 Jan 1802. I suspect she might be the Margaret Graham born 15 Dec 1775 in Orwell, Kinross-shire to Robert Graham [& probably Margaret Wylie, as she is named as the mother of subsequent Robert Graham children in Orwell and Kinross]. Would you mind looking at Kinross-shire MI's for references to Robert Graham & Margaret Wylie.
I see that you have an interest in "Lawrie". A son of the above Robert Anderson & Margaret Graham, Robert Anderson b1804, married a Margaret "Lawtie" [or Latto] who was born c1813-1816 in Fossoway [per 1851, 1861, 1871 Census]. The marriage was in Ballingry, Fife on 23 Nov 1839. Would you have you come across this Margaret Lawtie?
Thanks
In Kinross Kirkgate cemetery:
41: by John Graham teacher in Gruce Salins? (that’s what’s written along with the question mark – I’ve no idea where it is), to Robert Graham 12.10.1816 64: Margaret Wylie 25.10.1822 80: Thomas Graham 1.12.1830 61: Thomas Graham 27.10.1835 15
42 (in front of no.41) (on top) I.G. I.G. : James Graham 1710 35
I found John Graham, teacher in the census.
still no idea where Gruce Salins is.
1841 census: Main Street, Kinross, Kinrossshire, Scotland
John Graham Male 50 1791 Kinrossshire, Scotland
Janet Graham Female 45 1796 Kinrossshire, Scotland
1851 census:West Side, Main Street, Kinross, Kinrossshire, Scotland
John Graham Head M Male 64 1787 Retired School Master Kinrossshire, Scotland
I’ve seen the Lawtie name several times but have not paid any attention to it.
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Thanks Buckhyne, that's brilliant!
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Hello Buckhyne, i have PATON and JOHNSTON/E in your area. Any update would be appreciated.
cheers
Jack Gee
Hi Jack,
There are only three inscriptions for the Johnston/e name in the Kinross cemeteries:
Cleish cemetery:
41: Harry Young esquire of Cleish at Cleish Castle 19.10.1897 77, wife Mary Johnston at Cleish Castle 21.9.1890 74
Portmoak cemetery:
30: Thomas Millar of West Brockley & Letham 19.7.1845 79, wife Marjory Johnston 27.5.18-7 71, only son Thomas 22.4.1834 34, youngest daughter Marjory 12.12.1841 37
Tullibole Old cemetery:
10: (Table Stone) James Russel VDM, wife Janet Blackwood 2.11.1786 36, children Elizabeth 2.6.1779 7 months, Thomas 15.7.1779 5, Margaret 6.3.178[5 or 8] 17, Helen or mrs Johnstone 26.3.1842 65, Janet J 1842. (see Small i 378 for reverend James Russel)
I have no idea what VDM stands for and it’s not in the list of abbreviations.
There are eleven seven inscriptions for the Paton name so give me a wee clue as to who you are looking for.
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I'm getting auld.
There's also a Johnston inscription here
Milnathort Churchyard
124 Grace Rutherford at Whitehorn 2.11.1886 81, nieces Isabella Johnston 20.3.1916 81, Janet Johnston 23.1.1920 81, Jane Morison Johnston 17.1.1922 81
and here...
Milnathort Churchyard
159 1843 John Johnstone surgeon 25.4.1842 32, son John age 5, sister Janet Johnstone age 83, wife Ann Moncrieff 87, Robert Johnstone 1839-1918, the last of his family.
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Hi,
All of my Broun/Brown ancestors would be in most of those cemeteries.
I'm interested in all the Broun/Brown pre-1855 inscriptions if you have them.
One particular one that we have been searching for for years is from James Brown to his grandparents, possibly Ebenezer Broun of Finderlie and Christian Thomson in the old Orwell churchyard.
Being on the other side of the world makes it hard for us to find them.
Anyhow, any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg.
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Hi Buckhyne,
sorry to get back to you so late.
My Paton connection is
Peter Paton born 1792/1806 and married Janet Geddes and Maybe Janet Millar.
Their daughter Margaret Paton bc1825 Kinross.
There are other children of Peter Paton and both Janets but I know they died in other places.
Cheersd
Jack
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Hi,
All of my Broun/Brown ancestors would be in most of those cemeteries.
I'm interested in all the Broun/Brown pre-1855 inscriptions if you have them.
One particular one that we have been searching for for years is from James Brown to his grandparents, possibly Ebenezer Broun of Finderlie and Christian Thomson in the old Orwell churchyard.
Being on the other side of the world makes it hard for us to find them.
Anyhow, any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg.
Cleish Churchyard
12: (flat stone) Margaret Brownn……..was to Mean(?) of Cleish died 3.11.1703 64
Fossoway Churchyard
87: James Thomson 23.3.1761 (2)5; west side DT EK; David Brown; 3 lairs
98: James Greig portioner of Wester Coldrain 17.1.1812 70, wife Ann Brown 22.2.1814 63, by son James
101: William Nicoll 3.12.1848 73, wife Elizabeth Brown 19.3.1853 78, Alex N 14.8.1889 85, wife Anne Curror 17.1.1895
Kinross Kirkgate
64: Robert Fingzies 6.3.1899 93, wife Jane Brown 7.12.1879 69, son John 13.8.1902 57, son Alex 8.3.1843 – 19.12.1905, daughter Jane 18.7.1854 – 20.9.1909, children William 21.2.1848 – 11.2.1890, son Robert 18.6.1851 – 2.6.1896 both buried east cemetery Leith (wife Jane Kay 20.1.1919 95), Chr 26.11.1840 – 12..8.1915, daughter Elizabeth 20.5.1838 – 10.8.1917
67: C.G; Arthur Gall adjutant Kinross militia died at Campbelltown Argyleshire and buried there 1817, buried here wife Margaret Brown 28.4.1859 82, children William 11.2.1803, Clementina Adam G 15 or 18.2.1805, James 28.2.1806 – 6.2.1814, Arthur 7.4.1808 infant, John 22.4.1810 – 10.8.1863, Alex 29.6.1812 – 18.8.1856, by youngest son George
76: William Brown sometimes farmer in Shuttlefold after residing in Kinross 2.3.1805 74, wife Janet Cameron 30.10.1810, son Alex aged 60, daughter Jane aged 60, grandsons James aged 13, David aged 27, John 18.6.1832 20, by son David
Kinross West
16: Peter Rutherford at Gairneybank 1.1.1847 80, wife Grace Jack 9.2.1841 78, son Alex 6.3.1830 52, daughter Ann 1887 (widow of John Brown)
Milnathort Churchyard
58: 1761 RM ML square and compasses and plum lines?; DL CL David Lennox mason 22.10.1754 59, daughter Margaret 25.3.1732 – 5.6.1757 (wife of Robert Morison mason); David Brown printer Kinross, wife Ann Cuthbert 10.2.1885 26 (fourth generation from David Lennox)
76: (Table stone) 1758 James Brown; Jean Rutherfoord; five childrens dust lyes buried in this place Jean, Isabell, Lillias, John & Robert Brown
81: (flat stone) John Broun J.F. Ebenezer Broun; Chr Thomson; John Broun of Inlary, wife Janet Stevenson -.1.1725 45, son John -.1.1726 25, daughter Jean (by 2 weeks …..Lockhart) 18.1.1758 18, rev James Brown of Finderlie minister of Balbiggie and son of John of Finderlie died at Kinross 21.2.1846, wife Mary Neill Brown; John Brown, wife Eve Magdalen Brown, eldest child Maud 29.12.1865 (small ii 652)
My note: small - history of the U.P. church by rev Robert Small 1904
93: GC 17 JB 65; George Coventry farmer in Arlary 14.4.1762 58, wife Joan Brown, first son Robert 30.1.1700? 32, (wife Joan Coventry), sixth son David -.4.1750 12
97: Robert Reddie of Netherhall 12.2.1833 92, wife Mary Brown 6.6.1805 51, daughter Christian 17.6.1807 24, daughter Jean 31.12.1830 34, children Elizabeth, Ebenezer & David infants
163: John Adie 23.11.1844 56, wife Elizabeth Henderson 10.4.1814 23, daughter Euphemia 15.3.1871 56 (wife of John Brown, son James B 1.9.1858 20, son Morrison A.B. 25.3.1841 1, granddaughter Euphemia Stark 1.12.1863 3)
Orwell Old Churchyard
7: (Table stone) John Brown elder died in the year of god 16(7)5 and of Isobell Bannatyne his spouse died 1683 and son John died 1688 age 58
Portmoak Churchyard
15: 1918 Thomas Malcolm engineer Glasgow 4.2.1918 76, son of Andrew Wright Scotlandwell 31.8.1872 81 (wife Anne Oliphant 10.3.1853 52), wife Grace Brown 4.4.1929 84
46: Henry Law in Balgedie, third son Henry 12.1(?).1915 74, (wife Elizabeth Brown 18.5.1922 74, first son Henry at Johannesburg 6.9.1904 34, daughter Christina Brown Law15.6.1952 who was wife of Walter G. Grieve RSA 15.3.1937
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Wow!
Thanks so much, greatly appreciated.
Lots of familiar names there that I can now attribute dates to.
You're a legend.
Cheers.
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Hi Buckhyne,
sorry to get back to you so late.
My Paton connection is
Peter Paton born 1792/1806 and married Janet Geddes and Maybe Janet Millar.
Their daughter Margaret Paton bc1825 Kinross.
There are other children of Peter Paton and both Janets but I know they died in other places.
Cheersd
Jack
Fossoway Churchyard
34: Captain William Patton of Devonshaw 2.6.1844 52 “affectionate and kind husband, sincere friend”, youngest son Henry William in Benares Canada West 19.5.1855 19
35: rev Edward Hume of Pitsligo, widow Elizabeth Patton -.1.1826 - -.9.1906, son Henry W Patton H -.10.1856 - -.4.1875 (fastii vi 236 has Henry born 23.10.1855)
72: (flat stone) Henry Paton -.4.1746
86: (flat stone) AP I J; 1754; Andrew Patton of Damside of Dowan, wife Isabella Jamie 14.1.1750 46
Fossoway Old Churchyard
3: (table stone with inscription round the edge in relief) James Paton in Nethertoun of Alde who departed this life 11 February, 1688 age 66
23: (table stone with inscription round the edge in relief) Jannet Wotherspoon 5.1.1693 32, wife of John Paton of Methil
Kinross Kirkgate
2: here lies body of John Paton’s spouse to Francis Paton died January 1737 or 1787?
Milnathort Churchyard
41: Peter Watson, wife Janet Paton, son John (wife Elizabeth Sharp); Elizabeth W 14.3.1870 16; Peter W at Paterson America 21.8.1889 31
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Captain William Patton of Devonshaw 2.6.1844 52 “affectionate and kind husband, sincere friend”, youngest son Henry William in Benares Canada West 19.5.1855 19
I thought Benares was in India but it looks like there's another one in Canada.
There is a google book of Scots/American deaths and this is a wee bit of it.
(https://s5.postimg.org/m3lf3qfjb/paton.jpg)
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Hi, Im descended from Margaret White & John Haggie and Christian Fergussen and Hugh Wanton, all from Woodmarch Portmoak. Any of them buried there?
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I cannot find reference to any of them.
There is one in Portmoak Churchyard:
2 Robert Heggie in Carnack 23.11.1937, 91, wife Isabella Arthur 26.10.1928, 86
and that is the nearest I can find.
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Thanks for looking them up. They would have died in the 1850s.
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Buckhyne,
Matilda Miller (Gray) died 1855 and buried in Fossoway churchyard.
Anything on her parents James Gray and Janet Dick would be welcome, i have nothing on them, but are Kinross-shire people.
John Miller and Mary Drummond, married 1800 in Fossoway.
Plus any other Millers in Fossoway and Tullibole, they were quite numerous in that sparsely populated area.
Cheers,
Derek.
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Matilda Miller (Gray) died 1855 and buried in Fossoway churchyard
There is only one Miller in Fossoway churchyard.
97 by Andrew Miller and his wife Isabella Stobie to two sons; 1831
Plus any other Millers in Fossoway and Tullibole
There is only one Millar in Fossoway Old Churchyard
16 Henry Anderson, wife Mary Stedman, son John, whose wife Helen Millar (all apparently inscribed 1781)
Tullibole Old Churchyard is a wee churchyard and has only 19 names but no Millers.
John Miller and Mary Drummond, married 1800 in Fossoway
Only two Drummond names in Fossoway Churchyard
26 Thomas Drummond & Catherine Jack 1804
70 William Drummond of Crosshead 21.12.1784, 77, son John 20.4.1801, 53; 5 lairs
Kinross Kirkgate
48 Cicil Millar 3.6.1754, 76
28 Alec Miller coachman, wife Elizabeth Inglis at Swansacre 11.4.1865, 81; 1st son George at Swansacre 7.4.1811 - 28.7.1875
129 John Miller, cutler 12.4.1795, 87; Elspeth Tor?
Milnathort Churchyard
167 William Shaw merchant 28.8.1845, 65, wife Lillias Millar 4.7.1855, 77
37 James Drysdale late of Springhall, wife Helen Thomson, son David 6.10.1840, 64, wife Margaret C. Miller 25.1.1861, 63
87 John Miller portioner of Ballingall 1.3.1769, 77, wife Helen Adie 15.5.1778, 79
Portmoak Churchyard
30 (three inscriptions in same enclosure)
a) Thomas Miller of West Brackley & Letham 19.7.1845, 79; wife Marjory Johnston 27.5.18-7, 71
b) Thomas Miller Tod of West Brackley & Orwell 2.4.1915
c) David Tod of West Brackley 30.1.1860, 57; wife Margaret Miller 31.5.1873, 72
44 1814 T Miller; A. Simpson
73 1762 John Miller; son John; son William
77 (latin) Janet Miller 17.11.1725 – 20.4.1799; (English) their son James Beveridge 5.9.1832, 78; (wife Janet Arnot 22.11.1831, 74)
90 Robert Hoy, son Alex 5.3.1834, 21; James Hoy 3.12.1881, wife Catherine Miller 14.7.1885; Agnes Miller Merry 27.6.1861, 4
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Not surprising there's less coverage in headstones than those buried in those graveyards, they were and are expensive to erect.
Thank you very much for the look up.
I'll now and go see if i can find connections to those you did find referenced.
Cheers,
Derek.
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Bear in mind the pre-1855 MI book on Kinross cemeteries was written in the 1970's.
But you are correct that most folk couldn't afford a headstone.
Also lots of stones have fallen or been broken or are buried under the grass.
Then there are all the older headstones that are completely defaced and illegible.